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I think the question has become which USED gun, and from what maker, are you going to buy?

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Ted

There is little doubt that Connecticut Shotgun has had enough issues with their doubles to warrant all the criticism leveled at them. I have owned 5 RBL's; A Launch Edition 20 ga. configured the same way as all the rest I've owned: pg, btfe, sst, that I have zero problems with but is now for sale because I never shoot it. A 28 ga. w/28"bbls that was a dandy but I soon found I could not shoot it well, traded it back to CSM for what now I cannot remember.

I have owned 3 RBL12's, two of which I still have, all configured the same way as the previously mentioned guns. All had trigger issues, with the worst thing being a forend lug that came loose. Everything was fixed quickly and well.

The only A10 I owned was a 32" clays gun. Broke both mainsprings within a few hundred rounds of each other, but I must say I shot that gun hard-well over 4K rounds in a year's time. Shouldn't have mattered though. It's a gorgeous gun that got many compliments along the way and is sitting at the Buda Cabelas GL right now @ $10,999 lol. http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100680259

I have very mixed feelings about these CSM guns. They are iconic in their own way, and are distinctive as well. I really don't have any regrets about any of them. Plenty of others do, but one thing is certain: there won't ever be anything offered here in the US again to rival them and what they represent, despite the prevailing circumstances...
JR

Yes, I do admire CSMC/Galazan for trying to make these guns in the USA and keep the market alive. Galazan is a smart man, but in the end the lack of demand for their guns, no matter their quality, was/is a salient factor behind his decision.

I suppose history is repetitive. I read long ago in Jack O'Conner's book about shotguns that the M-21 never made money for Winchester. Only Mr. Olin's involvement kept it alive.

How about Merkel, Rizzini ?

It goes for anyone selling anything, sell junk, have poor service or high prices and you go out of business or try something else.

rapidfire

Its tough to be a maker of both "best" guns and "black" guns too.

Saddened to hear CSMC are falling inline with the rest of American made sxs. A sad day indeed, I enjoy my RBL, it's been hell on Doves. Sad day indeed!

If CSMC's new doublegun market has slowed to the point that they're throwing in the towel to move in a different direction, it brings up the question . . . how about their used gun inventory? I'm not talking about just their own brand, but rather their extensive inventory of high end doubles and their marketing strategy of them. Will they shift directions there, too?

I can speak to the continued existence of a couple of the Italian makers mentioned above as possibly out of business. At my gun club today, a friend shared his new 12 bore P&V with me, fresh from Italy. It was set up for sporting clays, 32" barrels, sporter configuration. Engraving by one of the masters (actually not to my taste). He was pounding the tar out of it. He liked it so much he more has a 28 bore and a 410 on order from them, delivery 1.5 years out.

At the FAMARS tent at the southern, I learned that the US division of FAMARS purchased the assets of the Italian factory from bankruptcy and they would be happy to build you a gun to your taste.

Good question. Their prices on CSMC's used guns have been at or near the top of the market. Something has to give!

Galazan (and other dealers of used fine guns) have sold a lot of sxs guns in the last 25 years. I believe more of these guns will be coming on the market in the short to mid term. So the problem is not just Galazan's, its a common problem among other like dealers.