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Note the patent date 1893 on this old 303 Savage. The stories it might tell, as they say. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/643816836This is not my rifle and I am not trying to sell it to anyone.
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Wish I could see the top of the breechbolt, as I think the seller is clueless on the model Savage he has! I can see it's a very early gun with that patent date, and it's also got the squared opening in the receiver for the rear of the breechbolt to seat into. My money is on it being a model 1895, and not a model 1899. Guessing when savvy Savage collectors see this auction, and realize it's a model 1895 the bidding will go crazy, as an 1895 is much more desirable than an 1899.
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There is some contradictory information in the listing - it says the S/N is 657**. If that is correct it would be an 1899, 1895 S/N's are less than 7000. But I have an 1899 with S/N 31*** that ends with an 1899 patent date, where my 1895 ends with an 1893 date. So maybe the S/N is just 657*, making it an 1895. The forearm looks like an 1895, but the stock pads look more like an 1899. The only way to know for sure would be the cocking indicator on top of the breechbolt, but I agree I think it is an 1895. If it is an 1895, it was a steal at the price. For an 1899, probably worth what they paid.
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What "stock pads" are you referring to WR?
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That the gun is advertised as a .300 Savage when the barrel is clearly marked as being a .303 leads one to believe this is not a seller familiar with the vagaries of Savage lever actioned rifles.
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I found the 4 notches of some interest. They may have been deer etc. Then the rifle is from the era Tom Horn was working his craft with his 1894 30WCF.
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Vall,
"stock pads" is Savage collector lingo for the flat places on both sides of the butt stock behind the receiver. On most 1899's, they are pointed like the one in the auction, and short. The 1895's are longer and rounded at the ends. A few 1899 carbines don't have any pads, just a rounded profile from the receiver into the wrist.
David Royal from Pinedale, WYO just put out a new Savage 99 book for collectors. It is a nice book, covers a lot of models.
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Thanks Wind River! As for the new book, I've already heard feedback from advanced Savage collectors of some errors in the new book. Some were pointed out to him during editing, but he didn't want to be bothered by corrections.
Last edited by Vall; 05/12/17 11:39 AM.
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I also picked up on the .303 Savage barrel. Clearly the seller was uninformed, plus sloppy. What is the value of the rear sight? $120?
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Rear sight goes for somewhere in that range.
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