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Some Perazzis did in fact come with two triggers. Before the barrel selective trigger was available the combo guns, a top single and an O/U, two triggers were standard issue as the O/U usually fired the bottom barrel first and on the same action the top single ....

But it was and still is possible to get the O/U with a top first configuration, or a bottom single, and any sort of trigger you might want along with a variety of rib types both side and top.

Top first O/U's have a strange rep in the US seemingly originating with people who are delusional or possessed of a nervous system to sensitive that I wonder how they function in the modern world. And too, seemingly ignorant of just what a single barrel trap gun represents.
I have a couple top first guns and a couple with selectable triggers that can be shot as top first and to my insensitive clod-like system there is no discernible difference. I'm sure that's just me.

I have put tens of thousands of rounds thru the guns I have. The "high" maintenance around here amounts to a fuzzy stick and a wipe down before they go in the bag and a quick touch up on the lube before they get shot. The really high maint is once a year +/- each gets disassembled and cleaned/lubed.
I can hardly keep up the pace is so furious and I can't even tell you how much sleep I've lost worrying about the guns breaking down!
Stan - IMO your MX8 needs some attention to the fitting of the forend lug/iron. There is no reason for a gun to be that tight as it serves no purpose. Seriously.

AFA the CA SxS thing goes, I lost interest. I appreciate the note but no thanks.

I know that two triggers came with many two barrel set guns. I was looking at one just two weeks ago at a Cabela's. I was referring to two sets of identical triggers coming with a typical one barrel set guns.

Nothing wrong with the fit on my gun, Charles. It's not binding anywhere. It's just well fitted and still requires a bit of down pressure to open. Absolutely no galling on the knuckle, and the forend snaps on with the proper amount of pressure. Putting the barrels on to the action requires care, they fit so closely.

Thanks, SRH

To all, I did not mean to hijack this topic and I guess my poking fun at the two trigger Perazzis probably went to far.
And no I don't shoot competition, I do shoot probably at least 2000 - 3000 targets a year, mostly through a variety of guns, mostly sxs.

Why own a bunch of guns if you don't shoot them? How many shots can you take at birds in a season. I have probably 70+ guns, maybe 1/3 are shotguns. Shooting targets is a way to get them out and enjoy them

I have shot trap competively (D class lol) and have lots of freinds who are ex trap or Skeet shooters. Also a lot who started with sporting clays. And I have to admit that most of the Perazzis shooters still own their Perazzis although I have seen some others of these guys charge competition guns like I go through my collection of guns that I shoot for fun.

Truthfully I have an older couple who used to shoot a lot of trap with there single barrel Perazzis, one of the guns are so old they bought it when they where imported by Winchester (?) and thery are still working fine but they have been rebuilt.
They same couple shot a lot of Skeet and sporting competively with their Beretta 682's and truthfully they have held up as well. And yes it is much easier to rebuilt a Beretta than a Browning. And I have to admit that the factory trigger on a beretta can be lousy, especially compared to a high end gun like a Perazzi. My sons 686 sporting silver pigeon II had horrible triggers while both the of the Brownings I have (525 and 725 sportings) have had great triggers out of the box. I have put a lot of rounds through my 525 w/o a hitch, but browning service sucks eggs. I would never send anything there, just send it to Art's

I think my point was lost a bit by my poking fun at the two triggers. My mistake. What this threat had migrated to was the future of the guns we collect and my point was we are unfortunately a dying breed. The only double gun market that remains strong is the o/u. I was emphasizing the point that one of the reasons was that the o/u was easier to shoot targets with. Many shooters at many clubs shoot for fun, not for competition so the future of double guns is the production o/u not the high end guns, whether they be CSMC or Perazzi or anyone. Of course those guy will still exist but the majority of the market will be in the production guns.

I guess I got a bit to carried away

Oh btw although I have never shot at the CAState trap shoot in Kingsburg, the Perazzi booth is always there... And the is always someone there with a broken gun....damm it, there I go again. Sorry, I guess I am just a troublemaker.

I hope you guys understand there is a little jest in this spirited discussion

Good shooting and good health to all

Jerry

Good shooting to you, too, Jerry. Good to hear from you. I always enjoy your posts.

Stay well, SRH

Doesn't sound like a happy gun to me, Stan.

Jerry - I had to have one gun rebuilt and I admit it freely. It was an early TM1 and heavily used when I got it, definitely new locking bar time. But, not knowing any better at the time I shot it for a couple years, maybe 100K-140K targets. And then had it rebuilt. It did need a new locking bar and just to be good guy it got a new firing pin too. My Dad then used the gun for about ten years and after he passed I sold it to the current owner who puts about 500-600 thru it a week. Looks like the upkeep on that thing is gonna be scary like $o.ooo4/shot. Good thing I got a buy on it to start with, eh?

Wonko,
I believe you I do, Uncle....I give up.
But really, my best buddy had a Kreighoff frame crack. Honest Injun.
My point was the market is in production o/u and they represent good value. I was poking fun at the high end guns.

Jerry

Jerry - no problemo

Kreighoffs do seem to have occasional problems. I can believe a frame cracked. Maybe once every couple years there is news of one blowing up. Whether that indicates some inherent design flaw I can't say and really don't care since a KG is simply too ugly to own.
There have been instances as well I've heard of aftermarket sideplated Perazzi MX8s cracking frames. Critical metal is removed when the recesses for the plates are machined. Factory sideplated guns do not share that proclivity as the actions are not identical to the non-plated actions. Fortunately the difference is obvious.
Personally I find it surprising that any gunmaker survives in today's market.

I have bought three vintage doubles in the past five years. Winchester, Ithaca and Baker. For me the buzz in the "vintage." I have no use for a new double.

There are some nice new doubles out there. I shot a 28 gauge Beretta 486 Parallelo yesterday at some clays. Sweet gun.

I agree about wanting vintage ...... up to a point. When what I want is not available at all in an old gun, or at an extremely high price, I'm willing to forego age for function, as long as the quality is there. Like .410 ejector guns with 30" barrels. You'll look long and hard before finding a classic like that. I know, I tried for a long time before giving in and ordering the Dickinson.

SRH

It also depends on a lot of outside influences whether or not you are buying 'vintage' as opposed to new. For example, one of the reasons I mostly waterfowl hunt today is posted land. You can't post the waterways and with the nontoxic requirements buying new gives you a lot more options.