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Yet an importer & wholesaler can import new guns from Turkey & sell them at $700.
The cost of the fee for a second hand auction item.

Yes, I don't like that it costs you $700. SKB, even before you lay a hand on it. I know it is your business & fair margin is fair. The rip is way before it got in your hands & the auction is getting a cut coming & going, seller & buyer. Man if I ran my business that way I would have no work.
I don't deny anyone, all I ask is a "fair suck of the saveloy," eh.
I might not know that much about it canvasback, however what I am saying is "the hurdles are ridiculous"& too costly". IMHO
By what you say the smell that I am smelling did not go away.

an importer & wholesaler can sell guns from Turkey for several reasons. They make money on the gun sale, not the import service. They also have what is commonly called an economy of scale. When you bring in several hundred guns at a time that 700$ can be spread across all of those guns and it amounts to a few dollars each.

I'm trying to remember the last auction I bought at that did not have a buyer's premium. I can not. Seems to be standard procedure on either side of the pond. Julia's, Rock Island, Gavin Gardiner, Southam's, Poulan's, ETC all have a buyer's premium. I find that to be just the cost of business these days. Yes there are hurdles and costs associated with importing guns and it is not usually cost effective on lower cost/quality items. That said, some outstanding buys can made in the UK currently that more than offset import costs.

Moses, as you are rightly surmising, it is the regulatory hurdles that make it so costly. But shipping can be a big component as well. Do one gun with a freight forwarder and it might be $300-400 freight alone depending on where it's coming from. Now do 15 guns and the freight component is the same because it's still under the minimum weight charged by the forwarder. When you are importing a full, 40 foot container of guns, many of the costs are the same or quite similar so the "per gun" cost drops dramatically. So what can cost $700 in total for one gun drops to maybe $30 per gun when you bring in 500 guns.

Note...the numbers are used to describe the scenario....not to be completely accurate examples of real costs importing from Turkey.

I spent 35 years as an importer. it's the economies of scale that are at work. Unless postal services can be effectively used (rarely) the cost of importing any one thing is usually dramatically higher than bringing in 1000 of the same.

Smells a bit less now, explained like that.
Go big or go home.
It works for high end but not low.
I been thinking too low.
O.M

Some good deals on some nice bird guns!!!

What about this Granger??

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...9&saletype=

I dunno. If'n I turned up with that gun the dog might not want hunt with me anymore.
A bit high class & too posh for him.
There's that low thinking again. He is a farm dog.
O.M

Left wall at 18? No thanks.

Best,
Ted

Beautiful gun but I agree. I wouldn't buy anything under 25.

Interesting to see a Granger shotgun in the auction. Having never seen one, I thought they were just a unicorn that appeared in Micheal McIntosh's book. Looks like a nice gun for the auction result.

They are most definitely NOT unicorns. I handled a couple that were in the Granger shop when I was last in St. Etienne, and they are quite simply the equal or superior to anything produced anywhere in the world.
Europeans have different taste in stocking and engraving (think swept cheek pieces, and big game engraved on bird guns) but, Richard Levi, who owns G. Granger, can build you one to any specification you desire. Bring money.
The sidelock release is activated when the gun is broken down, by pushing the trigger for that lock forward, with the sidelock politely raising itself out of the wood for inspection or cleaning. Never have seen anything to equal it.


Best,
Ted