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How big of a sin is it that a new best gun would have a screw that wasn't lined so that the slot points North? If after hardening and engraving metal properties changed and the screw no more pointed North, should the maker have replaced it before delivery, or is it considered acceptable?

That would bug the chit out of me.

At least it is NOT buggered. Saw a nice 16 Parker CHE recently- screws were buggered beyond belief. If this were my gun, and I could consistently kill birds with it, I'd leave it "as is"--

I would send the photo to whom ever this "Best" cam from All quAlity best manufactured guns screws should never be not pointing "N" see what they say. May I ask who the manufacturer is?
Rich

First thing that popped into my head was whoever put it together got it tight but was too scared to go the extra few degrees in case they buggered the slot
Either that or their finisher was on holiday that week.

Here it is, click "over and under shotgun details A"

http://www.hartmannandweiss.com/en/shotguns.html

I have seen discussions questioning their reputation as the finest guns in the world, along with pictures of similar finish imperfections, and when I looked I found this along with other similar issues. For example this new pair has mismatched tear drops, and if you look at the comments below the pictures someone spotted them and the late Simon Clode acknowledges it

https://www.theexplora.com/a-pair-of-hartmann-weiss-20g-sidelocks-engraved-by-a-m-j-p-brown/

I don't believe Hartmann and Weiss are of higher quality than Purdey or Boss as the legend goes.

Now that we don't know whether or not the gun was delivered with a misaligned screw I would give H & W the benefit of the doubt that it got looked after.

Since it's a website showcase gun, it may not be important if it ever was delivered, only that it is representative. I wonder if it's just an oops, and a courtesy email would prompt them to relook at it and decide whether to leave the picture up or not. Maybe, they think it's okay like that.

Wouldn't say it's impossible, although I find it highly unlikely since posting the photo on the official site indicates that they are happy presenting it to the world in this state, hence to any potential client.

Exactly. It's about their standards. I don't believe a head finisher or a factory manager at Boss, Purdey, or Holland & Holland would let such a gun pass final inspection. I've seen misaligned screws on guns by the London three, but these were used and pre-owned guns that would've been taken apart and serviced by gunsmiths during their lifetime.