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They can have my Light Saber when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!

Some pioneers at work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAs9EHtKfVc

The capacitor is a hoot.

This is about 20x the energy needed for a practical shotgun, although these guys are a little short in the efficiency department.

Lookie this one keith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KikIp_yAXvQ

A low voltage sequential coil gun.

Voltage x10, get the physical size of the coils down, and we have something that could be useful.

Tell me again how far away from practicality we are.

I can't stop laughing at the first one! A 250 lb. gun that self destructs on the first shot is priceless!

If you watch the rest of the series he improves the connections and makes some progress. Ver. 5 even has a ballistic gel test.

As primitive as that is, it's proof that people are working on the tech.

Future professional engineers. I love it.

Here's a link to a story about King's friend Dr. Gerald Bull, and his wacky and ill-conceived efforts to build a cannon that would fire a projectile to the moon:

http://www.astronautix.com/g/gun-launched.html

Proof that people are working on the tech doesn't mean it stands a snowball's chance in hell of ever working in a practical and economical manner. All we need is a gun and propellant that can fire a projectile at least 5.6 miles per second... and a projectile that won't burn up in the atmosphere at such velocities. Easy! I wonder why he had trouble getting funding for such valuable research?

Now for something even more deadly, and a technology that actually works, check out this:

https://k61.kn3.net/3/F/F/0/1/8/169.gif.webm

Non-rocket space launch hasn't been written off yet.

Ever think air guns would achieve the refinement they have?

People are pretty damn ingenious.

There are alternatives to pressure vessel guns, and I think we will see some pretty clever stuff in the not so distant future.

Nev'r shall such a shooting iron ent'r mine own caliver cubiculo.
I am only anon begineth the useth of powd'r not of the blacke.
such contrivances art of the foe.
Those gents bringeth a sure and c'tain destruction f'r et'rnity.
O.M

I know that non-rocket space launch hasn't been written off yet. There have always been fools who think they can defy simple physics and practical limitations of readily available materials. As I noted earlier, achieving escape velocity will require a muzzle velocity of at least 25,000 miles per hour. That's over 9 times the muzzle velocity of a .220 Swift. Of course, that is ignoring friction loss with the air... so unless your intrepid inventors intend to eliminate the atmosphere of the earth... or come up with a payload that won't immediately burn up... and also can withstand the G-forces of such extreme acceleration... then such an idea is sheer fantasy at best.

As far as the refinements we see in air rifles... it ain't all that much. In my lifetime, we've seen about a 300 ft. per second increase in velocity. The few people who buy those very expensive 1200+ fps models quickly find that they need to use ultra-light pellets to get that velocity. And then they also find that they need to use the heaviest pellets to stay under 1000 fps because of the instability and inaccuracy they encounter as they approach or cross the sound barrier.

We ain't talking a rejection of smokeless powder or other practical technologies here moses! But I have shot the vast majority of deer in my life with open sighted black powder flintlock guns. Hey, did you guys happen to buy one of those Gyrojet rocket pistols? If you can even find a box of ammo for them today, it will likely be worth much more than the pistol. And what a great defensive round! Why, it was almost equal to a .45 ACP if you could get your attacker to stay at least 25 feet away so it could reach full velocity. At 8 feet, it was about equal in kinetic energy to a .22 short.

There was jest in my Shakespearian post.

My wife says that I do not adapt to new tech very well & I also shoot a flintlock.
My new gun which arrived on Friday was manufactured in April 1936, my car is 15 years old, my phone is not smart & I read the King James Bible.
It is not so much a rejection of the new as an aversion to yet unproven gimmicky fad stuff when a tried & true thing, which is a cheaper thing, is already in my hand.

Black powder, smokeless powder & an air rifle all rely an a very rapid increase in internal air pressure to expel a projectile.
What I am failing to see here is how is the electricity going to be a propulsive force ?
Ignition source; Yes. The electricity causes another substance to act.
Even to use a very fast acting solenoid to take place of a spring in an air rifle, the propulsion force is still air pressure.
To create lightening & a thunder clap in the guns chamber, the propulsion force is still air pressure.
A electric short spark is thrown by air pressure. In the open air it is weak. Contained it may strengthen a bit, but not enough on its own.

String & the energy stored in a bent bow & stretched rubber bands have the ability to impart a propulsive force on a projectile.
Being electrocuted & thrown across the room is from the propulsive force of contracting muscles, the same as a bow or rubber band.

That is just how I am seeing it now, but I will wait & see if someone can explain how electricity can be a propulsive force to hurl a projectile.
O.M