Dave, I just noticed that I recommended those Game Bore loads to you. I mostly use the "heavier" ones: Game Bore Pure Gold 1 1/16 oz Brit 6's in a 2 1/2" paper case. That's my favorite 1st barrel load in a 12ga. Later in the season, if it's a cold and snowy hunt, I may switch to some of the RST 1 1/4 oz loads of 6's or 5's out of an SKB. Had one hunt last year where my hands were cold enough that I'm pretty sure a DT gun would have been a problem for me. Also slower getting on birds due to more layers of clothes, and roosters carrying more layers of pheasant armor (fat) than they were earlier in the season. And all of them pretty much full grown by mid-Dec or so.