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Eightbore, when you receive the rifle I would most appreciate you posting a picture of the pistol grip area. In all the pictures that were available the seller never took a good side view of the action and pistol grip areas. (Picture 3 and 9 are of this area however were taken at a downward angle and you can't see the grip cap area or its profile very well)
Congrats on the buy it looks like you got a good one!
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At the time of his death, Michael and I were planning an addition to his two books, describing Oberlies' guns. He had been searching for years for an Oberlies Springfield 1903, finally found one in the year of his death. Unlike MP, who was focused on Springfields, I am focused on anything Oberlies made. We were to use my ten Oberlies guns for the article. Michael only had the one, but his interest was high. I have saved most of our emails discussing his search. The grip on the Swift is the wavy pattern, but with none of his characteristic silver inlays.
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There were scopes of different lengths that were used with target bases. Apparently Oberlies made this gun to be used with either long or short scopes. By the way, as you can see, Oberlies made his own scope bases and case colored them. I will probably shoot this gun with standard long tube Unertls. Yes, and most shooters agree that beyond full length scopes, there are several base spacings used for all the others. The standard seems to be 7.25" spacing, (1/4" click), 14.5" spacing (1/8" click) and the other is 21.75" (1/16" click) This applies to most common target scopes like Unertl, Fecker, Lyman, etc. Stevens probably made a larger assortment of varying scope lengths than any other maker.
Last edited by Vall; 08/22/17 10:41 AM.
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Notice that the front base has two locations cut for mounts. What I have not mentioned is that this 1917 Swift is one of a near identical pair of 1917s, one in 30-06, made by Oberlies for the same customer. The pair was split up about 30 some years ago at an OGCA show. I was able to find the 30-06 about ten years ago, on gunbroker, in the hands of the person who displayed the pair at OGCA. The Swift had been sold at the show and disappeared until I found it in Virginia on gunbroker.
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Great end to a decade long search. It is always good to hear of success in these types of efforts. Nice looking rifle with unique features and another example of what is still out there in the collectible category that can be had reasonably. It would be nice to see the pair compared when you have this in hand. Thanks for sharing. Thaine
It ain't ignorance that does the most damage, it's knowing so derned much that ain't so! J. Billings
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In packing for my impending move, I found a nice ten power Unertl of the short variety. I don't believe I ever had it on a rifle, but this 1917 Swift looks like a good home for it. More information in the spring.
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