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Originally Posted By: pamtnman
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Excellent advice Ted.

Was just reading that it's been a big year so far for Canada Customs finding undeclared handguns in the vehicles of American tourists. They won't go easy on you....a night or two in the hoosegow and a $2000 to $3000 fine. Oh, and you won't get your handgun back and you will be in the computer for future reference.

Reading this stormtrooper stuff makes me wonder why we don't just invade Canada and make it part of the USA already. The last time I went into Canada, the arrogant young Canadian customs guy head to toe in body armor asked my small children about daddy's guns, where he stores them, how many he has, is he safe with them, etc. It was an infuriating experience for someone from a nation with individual liberty. Way too much state power, and the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. I haven't been back to Canada since then, and I have avoided it.


As I already noted earlier in this thread, the ignorance of some Americans regarding foreign countries is nothing short of astounding.

"Storm trooper stuff"?? News flash. We have different laws. Deal with it, as the OP is trying to do his best to, or stay the $#%@ out.

You know what's infuriating pamtnman? Idiots who think our laws don't apply to them when they are guests in our country. Perhaps you should read the thread again and get a sense of why that particular customs officer might have been quizzing your family in the way that he did.

Oh, and BTW, as a regular visitor to your country, I can attest to the fact that your customs officers are no picnic to deal with. Not much "individual liberty" for either of us at the border.


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Some of my experiences with US Customs made me reconsider coming back home. Canadian Customs folks are at least excruciatingly polite...Geo

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Wait just a minute Canvasback. It's not very long ago that Canada belonged to Native Americans. It was taken away from them. What makes you think that it can't be taken away from you? Land, Countries, belong to whoever can take and keep them. That's the way it's been since time immemorial. Nothing has changed recently. The US could certainly occupy Canada if they wanted to. They could also eat all the Canadian bacon and drink all the Canadian beer without payment if they so wished. How do you like them apples?

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Won't work nialmac. We considered annexing Saskatchewan a few years ago. When our national cartographers pointed out that it would make the map of our Country look like a fist with a middle finger pointed up we had to scrap the whole idea. Disappointed a lot of Sask folks...Geo

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Nialmac, I didn't say you were unable to. I understand clearly the ebb and flow of national borders over time and throughout history.

If you would pay attention and bone up on your reading comprehension, you might understand I never suggested the US was not capable of what you suggest.

However, I did say and will say again that there is a certain group of moronic Americans incapable of getting their head out of their asses long enough to understand that other nations have different laws. And when you travel to those different countries, you are no longer in the US and subject to the laws of the nation you are in.

Do you think the American populace has the stomach for conquering every country that has different laws, just so some American morons can travel without having to comply with any laws other than American laws? That would be most of the world.

Canada never "belonged" to any Native Americans in the sense of a country as we use the term. They were operating at a stone age level of technology and were for the most part, subsistence nomads.

Mike asks some reasonable questions. He gets some reasonable responses that provide him with some "heads up" as to what to watch for and why. Somehow, in the over 40 responses, we managed to find out who the morons are on this topic. pamtnman and nialmac.

Nialmac, if I've misunderstood you, I apologize. If I missed your effort at humour, I apologize. Otherwise, take your ignorant ego and shove it.


Edit to add: Nialmac, come on up here and try eating our bacon and drinking our beer without paying for it. Could be rather humorous.

Because your reading comprehension seems lacking, this edit is to draw attention to your use of the word "we" when describing what the American government and military are capable of. I don't think YOU can even eat bacon or drink that pisswater Americans call beer in the US for free. Or have I got that wrong.

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I love it, I love it. Her I thought that Canadians were super polite. I forgot to mention that we'll get rid of all those pictures of the queen as well.

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Americans have owned the Stanley Cup for 24 years. After we invade we will replace the Loonie with a Mallard duck from that hotel in Memphis and turn Nova Scotia into a giant Trump branded golf course.

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Originally Posted By: lonesome roads
Americans have owned the Stanley Cup for 24 years. After we invade we will replace the Loonie with a Mallard duck from that hotel in Memphis and turn Nova Scotia into a giant Trump branded golf course.

Go Wings!


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That's only because we lend you the players. And have TS all you want....I'll take Shania every day of the week....better pipes and way, way better to look at.

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Originally Posted By: nialmac
I love it, I love it. Her I thought that Canadians were super polite. I forgot to mention that we'll get rid of all those pictures of the queen as well.


What, and replace them with pics of your home grown queen....George Washington??


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Originally Posted By: Argo44
Invade Canada? It was done...twice:
-- 1776: Assault on Montreal and Quebec led by Benedict Arnold. Came close to success. (some great novels written by Kenneth Roberts and others.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/481435.Through_a_Howling_Wilderness
https://www.amazon.com/March-Quebec-Kenneth-Lewis-Roberts/dp/0892720832

-- 1812-1814 - Montreal (failed miserably) and Detroit area...lost won lost.

Oh yes...President Polk and the 54.40 or fight issue of 1844...which would have led to much of Canada west of the Great Lakes being USA. Actually it was a ploy to insure the USA had the Straits of San Juan de Fuca and Seattle as a port...which succeeded when the 49th parallel became the border. (only three great ports on the west coast of North America...San Diego, San Francisco and Seattle...Polk got them all - the one President who operated with firm Geographic national objectives.

There was some talk with the Quebec Libre stuff of the early 1960's of English speaking Canada just bailing and applying for statehood. Didn't go very far. There were also war gaming at the time which recommended Canada just disband its military and let the USA carry the load.. Canada's efforts being miniscule during the Cold War i.e. World WarIII.

Good stuff, Argo. You made me feel a bit better


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