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Last Fall, after cleaning my JP Sauer 20 gauge shotgun, I inserted 2 plastic Pachmayr snap caps in the shotgun. Last week I removed the gun from its case for a hunt. Upon opening the action, there was no visible snap cap in the right barrel. Fortunately the snap cap in the left barrel was still visible although it too had begun to slide down the barrel. I was able to get both snap caps out of the barrels. The plastic rim on each had disintegrated over the past year, allowing both the caps to slide down the barrels, obstructing the bores.
The snap caps are blue and marked Pachmayr, CAL.20 MADE IN ITALY.
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Regarding my post, I have photos but can't figure out how to attach them.
Last edited by GR8BAY; 10/26/17 12:09 PM.
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I gave up long ago on plastic snap caps because of the same issues, the rims eventually break off. I use the metal ones with the fleece swabs. http://www.bigcountrysportinggoods.com/c...XxoCt-cQAvD_BwE
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I am sorry to be a SA but this is a good example of why leaving ANYTHING in a gun when put away is a bad idea. Why would you? I can think of no useful purpose.
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I am sorry to be a SA but this is a good example of why leaving ANYTHING in a gun when put away is a bad idea. Why would you? I can think of no useful purpose. It doesn't serve any useful purpose, but some still believe that it helps keep tension of the springs. The best caps are those with hard rubber primers made of thin metal plated with nickel. For practice I use light alloy ones with spring tensioned brass primers because that is all I could find locally in 16 ga.
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Toby, it's good point, but there's one case where it might make sense. With a barrel-cocked gun you can chamber snap caps, relieve the springs and then take off the fore end to open the gun and remove the caps without recocking. I haven't been able to figure out how to do that with a lever cocked gun like the MF Ideal. The only alternatives I come up with are leaving the gun cocked or maybe removing th barrels and snapping the strikers into a a piece of wood.
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Solution is very simple. Make a couple of brass rods about 2" or 3" long. With the gun pointing upwards drop them down the muzzle. Snap the barrels and slide the rods out. Presto! Springs relieved without straining the firing pins.
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Thanks, Joe! That sounds like it would do the trick!
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I relieve my gun's springs by using a horn block sold for such a purpose. I like to remove the tension before cleaning so that I don't end up pushing crud into the firing pin holes. After cleaning I reassemble the gun and into the safe it goes. At one time I used spent shotshells to relieve the spings but that could invite disaster. My nice snap caps stay in the case. Karl
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While I think it unnecessary to uncock a gun for storage, the MF Ideal is easy. Hold the triggers back with the cocking lever depressed. Continue to hold the triggers while lowering the lever. The gun is uncocked.
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