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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Originally Posted By: Fudd
How will the upcoming California laws affect home handloading? Will loose components be considered ammo?


Yep, probably. With a felony conviction attached.

As to whether or not the new law will affect reloading, a shorter and more accurate answer would be “no”.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB1235
above is the new law. This article is the boiled down affect of the new law:
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/07/new-california-ammunition-law.html

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I'm close to one-gun for birds, Gil: 20ga SKB Model 500 o/u, three-inch. Light and fits well for the blind and tramping around.

Yesterday, from pure sentiment, I used the exquisite 12ga Francotte grouse gun of the captain of the 1912 US Olympics trap team, Charles Billings.

It's light and fits, too, but I shoot better with an o/u.

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Originally Posted By: GLS
Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Originally Posted By: Fudd
How will the upcoming California laws affect home handloading? Will loose components be considered ammo?


Yep, probably. With a felony conviction attached.

As to whether or not the new law will affect reloading, a shorter and more accurate answer would be “no”.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB1235
above is the new law. This article is the boiled down affect of the new law:
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/07/new-california-ammunition-law.html


Ok, Thanks Gil for that correct information .

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California has been the bellwether for the future of the Nation since Statehood. I hate to think what's coming for our Country...Geo

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From gun legislation and ammunition bans to high taxes, the welfare state, illegal immigration, and gay marriage, almost everyone you talk to from Kalifornia complains about the way things are going there, but damn few of them either leave or attempt to change it.

That tells me they are actually in agreement with it.


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The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt. Period.
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They have said that about England and the US, too. Thing is, both England and California have gone off-the-rails liberal in recent decades, and the rest of the country has become aware of fruitcake liberalism, it's effects on daily life, and, most importantly, how to stop it in it's tracks.
If a vote came up right now to let California succeed, we could apply it nationwide, and see if the rest of the country would allow them to remain.
I know how I'd vote. Hey, build another wall (or, minefield).


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The California "Proposition" procedure is "democracy" run amok. While it sounds good in theory in application it can be abused and have bad consequences. If 8% of the electorate signs a petition against the slaying of Bambi by brutal hunters, it could get on a ballot to be submitted statewide. All it takes is money to get a "proposition" rolling. In a state wherein a Game and Fish Commission board member was removed from his position because he legally killed a mountain lion in another state, there are enough goofs to get it done. As I recall, a California mountain lion celebrated his firing by attacking and eating a jogger. Gil

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Its pure voter fraud perpetrated by the democrats and hidden by a complacent mainstream media, which is right out of Joseph Goebbels' playbook.

You think those Nazi's weren't geniuses, you better think again.

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I would hope that Secretary Zinke can apply a national standard for hunting use of the federal land that state. If the state can't comply, it should affect funding and maybe have a policy of letting the 'monument' lands seek the condition that nature takes it.

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