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![[Linked Image from i.goopics.net]](https://i.goopics.net/800/mrgb6o.jpg) Salut Argo, Je ne connais pas la date du décès de Jean-Pierre Didier. Par contre son fils Jean Didier, qui au début du XXè siècle réunit les 2 canonneries Didier-Drevet et Ronchard-Cizeron qui cesseront leurs activités en 1924, est lui décédé en 1940. Salut, Jean-Pierre Didier 1831-1914
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Back in the forum, after a few years.
In the meantime, I picked up a very interesting French gun which needs some dating help. Thinking it's mid 1920s, a product of Aime Maisonnial.
How to post photos....
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You can use Imgur or jpgbox for free. If yo'd like I can post them for you. Sending you a PM with an email address. Gene
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Still trying to narrow down the dates in Saint-Etienne for use of cm for chambers. Here is a Manufrance Robust Model 2, SN 23698 with 6.5 cm chambers, which on the Robust line would date to 1923. https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...odel-2-16-ga-french.cfm?gun_id=100584177![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/IUpQzB3.png) There is also a Robust model 3, SN 8903 with 6.5 cm chambers, which per the current Serial Number chart would date to 1921. It appears in a YouTube video. There is also a MF (model unknown) SN 20309, 7cm chambers. It is highly engraved with the "mDf" stamp as a special gun. With a top key I'm assuming this is a Robust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=mJsfScq1PaQ&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Farmasfinas.blogs.sapo.pt%2F2007%2F03%2F%3Fpage%3D5&feature=emb_imp_woyt ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/E9fOSjw.png)
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![[Linked Image from i.goopics.net]](https://i.goopics.net/800/2o3pg6.jpg) Fusil fabriqué vers 1905
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Ah, well it's certainly beautiful. Thanks. That was pretty silly of me trying to classify a hammer gun as a robust.
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Here's another one for the Didier-Drevet thread. It is a pinfire converted to centrefire. Barrel date 1873, SN 3020. The action maker is Jean Fournel, perhaps even the assembler. Retailer (assembler?) Chalet Pere et Fils. [img] https://imgur.com/a/WW9NpR3[/img]
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No chamber length that I can see.
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I'll move this forward:
Here is the latest chart of guns with dated Didier-Drevet barrels confirmed by photos:
1852 - DD begins to serial number and date his barrels
1855 - Gold Medal for Barrels - Exposition Universelle des produits de l'Agriculture, de l'Industrie et des Beaux-Arts de Paris
1873 - . 3020;. . XX . xxx; 18.8; Gun maker: Jean Fournel; no Sn. (Damas Lefaucheaux U-L converted pin-fire hammer gun)
1878 - . XXXX;. . 65 . mm; 18.6; Gun maker: Didier Fusil; Sn: ?? (damas underlever hammergun)
1879 - . 3675;. . ??? . . ??; 18.3; Gun maker; ??. . . . . .; Sn: ??
1885 - ..4922;. . ??? . mm; 17.0. Gun maker: Pondevaux et Jussy; gun sn: ??
1887 - ..5275;. . 75. .mm; 18.4. Gun maker: L.Chalet; gun sn: ??
1889 - shift from mm to cm in Saint Etienne per Wildcattle
189X -. .6652;. .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; Gun SN: ? SxS Steel.
1896 -. .7572;. .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: Darne R grade; Gun SN: ? SxS Damascus.
1896 -. .7653;. .6.5. .cm; 15.6; Gun maker: Darne; Gun SN: 657 SxS Steel
1898 -. .8357;. .7 . . .cm; 16.8; Gun maker; ?? Gun SN: ?
1899 - ..8532;. .7 . . .cm; 19.6; Gun maker: Cizeron-Gabion; Gun SN:
1899 -. .8855;. .6.5. .cm; 17.0; Gun maker: Moulard; gun sn: ??
1900 - Grand Prix for Barrels - Paris Universelle
1900 - ..8975;. .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: Darne; gun sn??
1901 - ..9451;. .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: Darne V series; gun sn: 1508
1903 - ???????? . .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: Buford Armurier SN 5397
1904 - 11412; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ?? gun sn: ??
1905 - 11604; . . ??? . . ??; 18.4? Gun maker: ?? gun sn: ??
1906 - 11985; . .7 . . .cm; 17.0; Gun maker: Gerest Berthon; gun sn: ??
1906 - 12075; . .7 . . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1907 - 12455; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1907 - 12537: . .7 . . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1907 - 12613? . .7 . . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: Geneaux; gun sn: ??
1907 - ???????? . .7.5. .cm; 19.6; Gun maker; ??; gun sn: ??
1908 - 12707;. . 6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ?? Decorative boxlock
1908 - 12740; . .6.5. .cm; 17.0; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1910 - 13184; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4: Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1918?- 13986? . . 65. .mm; 18.4: ??????? 1st mm chamber?? Outlier? reproofed?
1918 - 14204; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4: Gun maker: ?? gun sn: 19488; (Skeetz's gun)
1919 - 14340; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ?? gun sn: ?? La bascule jaspée avec son axe d'origine porte la signature en lettres cursives « Didier Fusil 1919.09.23 » . Une inscription en majuscules vient la compléter sur la table : « MARQUES DÉPOSÉES D.D-1919-23 ».
1919 - 14341; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4; Gun maker; ?? gun sn: ??
1921 - 15034; . .6.5? .cm; 18.4; Photo is unclear but 6.5 is the best guess
1924 - shift from cm to mm in Saint Etienne
1924 - 16571?;. . 75. .mm; 19.6; Gun maker: Didier Drevet (SIFARM) "Excelsior." gun sn: 1080
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