Larry, there are brother Mondiales out there (Freres) (at least three - no photos):
https://www.chassepassion.net/forums-chasse/topic/marque-de-fusil/

and another (photos seem to have vanished)
http://www.passionlachasse.com/t16943-fusil-mondiale

And I believe another:
http://www.passionlachasse.com/t15983-avis-fusils

MessageSujet: Re: Avis fusils Dim 2 Déc 2012 - 22:01 Mentionner
Je peux juste te dire par exemple ce soir ,que ton fusil de marque Mondiale est un fusil issu de la Manufacture "MONDIALE" de St Etienne , qui était au n° 2 du cours Fauriel et qui fabriquait des armes de chasse selon désir des clients jusqu'en 1950 environ , Ces armes étaient assez variées et chaque fusils était gravé selon demande . Il y a eut des calibres 12 , des 16 et des 20 en très petites quantité .C'était du fusil entierrement artisanal de bonne qualité et qui ne prend pas de jeu . On en trouve encore d'occasion dans les 500 euros , ce qui est donné pour les connaisseurs bien sûr , mais le chambrage et la méconnaissance font qu'il y a peu d' acheteurs hélas .

Rough translation (2012) comment: I can just tell you a little bit this evening, that your gun marked "Mondiale" is a gun made by a manufacturer "Mondiale" in Saint Etienne, which was locate at 2, du cours Fauriel, which made hunting guns according to the desires of its clients (bespoke guns) up to about 1950. These guns were quite varied and each gun was engraved according to the wishes of the client. They were made in 12, 16 and 20 gauges in very small quantities. It was a gun which was entirely artisanal of good quality with never play in the action. You can still find some used for about 500 Euroes, which are a great bargain for the connaisseurs. Alas, the chambering and the lack of knowledge of the name means few buyers.

Just a further thought, there is no "system Helice," no patent for "Helice," no regulated meaning of the term. The term simply means "heilcal" and has no specific meaning other than as an advertisement which has come to sort of stand for something vaguely "solid" that no one is quite sure about...sort of like "choke rectifie." Even the French get mixed up on this.

Last edited by Argo44; 12/09/17 10:39 AM.

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