Keith, you are right....nothing worse than wet black ice. I can remember a few instances of it when its really bad, but you know it when it happens....when you think its really slippery and you still fall down when you get out of the car or truck, now that's slippery.

My favorite memory of it was on a sunny day in Montana in the very early 1980's. Just enough heat in the sunshine to melt a layer of water on the ice on the road. 4 of us in a vehicle. We watched five other cars go off the road and somehow manage to come to a stop still on the road. All four got out of the car and all four wiped out.

When it gets good and Manitoba cold, there's lots of traction for those who know how to drive on it. Ice roads.....they're fun!

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