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Thats an extractor gun. In other words, NO ejectors. Thats why its only $2500. They go for a lot less money than Model 21 Winchester shotguns with ejectors. You can count on the fact that they are a whole lot less. But, if I were looking for a shooter.......and didnt care about ejectors...
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I don't know the values of these at all. I'm ambivalent about ejectors. Never had an ejector gun actually.
My shotgun season is done, so I'm just looking around at "stuff" to tide me over 'til turkey season.
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Looks like a boat anchor compared to mine. Might have to raise my price if someone is willing to pay for that gun.
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Let me pitch the AyA Model 100 alternative, just a bit more.
The Model 100s had selective ejectors, a beaver tail forend, and were finished inside and out, like a Swiss watch.
When I shoot one of my Model 100's at a sporting clays range, it's quite often somebody comes up and complements my nice Model 21 Winchester. From a few feet away, they look like a Model 21 flatside, only with dark, European walnut stocks and forends.
For just a few years in the middle 50's, Sears imported and branded FN Mausers as JC Higgins and the Model 100's from AyA, and offered elaborately hand engraved High Standard pump and automatic shotguns, as Imperial grades.
The Model 100's aren't flat out copies of a Model 21, but you can tell that Sears aimed the Model 100 straight at the Model 21 buyers that wouldn't, or couldn't, justify $300 for a Model 21. Money was worth about ten times what it is today. The Model 100's weren't cheap, and the Model 21's were very expensive.
A wise seller, knows what an AyA Model 100 is, and they keep it, or price it near a thousand dollars. The trick is to find a seller that thinks he's selling a Sears and Roebuck branded Matador, and you'll buy them for three or four hundred bucks.
Like a lot of "Wish Book" guns, you can often find a J.C. Higgins Model 100 that looks like it was opened by dear old Dad on his last Christmas, shot a few times, and then stayed in the family until the ungrateful grandchildren sold it because it didn't have choke tubes.
It's not a Model 21, anymore than a real A.C. Cobra is one of those replicas that cost a tenth of the real thing.
But it sure ain't no Matador, either.
They were solid, well built, nice double guns that anyone should be proud to own.
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Take your time and search. There will be one out there for you
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Looks like a boat anchor compared to mine. Might have to raise my price if someone is willing to pay for that gun. Someone IS willing to pay that plus a 10% hammer price, plus shipping and FFL fees for that gun. Post some pictures. I'd like to see what it looks like for reference. Prices seem to be all over the place for some vintage firearms, esp. double shotguns, and rock steady for others (Alphabet Marlin 39a's for example).
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As 992B said might be worthwhile to look for one of them J.C. Higgins 100s made for Sears Roebuck & Co. One in excellent condition depending on gauge will set back about $600 to $800. The metal polish bluing is excellent with finely checkered walnut of good density and figure. The butt plate and grip caps were bovine horn. One has to hold and examine one to fully appreciate what is there. I'm not sure how much better Model 21 field grade is but the price indicates 5x to 6x better which it proly isn't.
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What is so hard to understand about "American made", 30" barrels, with a preference for the 21?
JM, you are so quick to always suggest something other than what the OP asks about. You have such a vast knowledge of doubleguns that you've reached the highest pinnacle of an armchair expert. You don't own or shoot them! Why don't you just use that storehouse of gun trivia to answer the OP's question, instead of diverting it with an attempt to change his mind. Do you look down at everyone's ability to know what they want that much?
To everyone else, sorry for the rant ..............I'm just tired of that crap.
SRH
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What is so hard to understand about "American made", 30" barrels, with a preference for the 21?
JM, you are so quick to always suggest something other than what the OP asks about. You have such a vast knowledge of doubleguns that you've reached the highest pinnacle of an armchair expert. You don't own or shoot them! Why don't you just use that storehouse of gun trivia to answer the OP's question, instead of diverting it with an attempt to change his mind. Do you look down at everyone's ability to know what they want that much?
To everyone else, sorry for the rant ..............I'm just tired of that crap.
SRH Ok, Coach or Salvadore Ferragamo is not Gucci. Model 21 30" or 32" barrels with 3" chambers F-F would be nice to own. The F-F would be great because one could change that combo to individuals needs.
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If you want to depreciate the value of a vintage Model 21, just go ahead and jack with the original chokes.
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