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Briley no longer chamber sleeves down a gauge. They will sleeve at the same gauge but not down a gauge. I spoke to them last year about sleeving a 10 down to a 12; they would not do it.

OK, rtw, here comes Gun Handling 102.

Make up a 4 oz bottle of shot. Tape it to the gun starting at the muzzle, every 4 inches to the butt. Measure and record distance from teeter-totter point to front trigger for each weight location. This experiment will give you a good understanding of how weight changes can change balance point. Hold the gun in your hands with each weight location. Pay close attention to any urge to shift your front hand. The balance point where you are most satisfied with your front hand location is "close" to your preferred balance. Repeat using a 2 oz weight to see how smaller weights can have the same effect as a larger weight when further from the CG.

The above will give you a good basic understanding of balance, your preferred balance location, and how to move balance to a more preferred location.

Questions?

DDA

That is interesting - did they give a reason why they no longer do it?

Briley did not give me a reason, but from those who have used Briley for that service the word is the guy who did the chamber and barrel sleeving left the company. All the expertise retired or was laid off.

The biggest thing I learned from Don about gun handling is that weight of the gun alone is a terribly poor indicator of handling characteristic(s). It is generally assumed, as was by me, that a lightweight gun is too "whippy", and moves too fast. It is further assumed that this causes all sorts of maladies in shooting flying ........... stopping the gun when you fire, getting too far out in front, and others.

While weight plays a role in this, where the weight is concentrated in the gun plays a much bigger role. If the mass is concentrated in the "center" (the action), and the ends (muzzles and butt) are relieved of mass, the gun will indeed move very easily between the hands, often too easily, and we won't shoot it well. But when the same weight gun has it's center mass lessened and moved towards the ends it "slows it down" a bit, the result of having greater swing effort.

So, it is easy to see, once we understand this truth, that greater swing effort may be a great plus with a very lightweight gun, while less swing effort may be desirable for a very heavy gun. Don spun a little 4 lb. 14 oz. Yildiz S x S .410 of mine and found that the MOI of the gun was almost identical to that of many 12 ga. English game guns. It helped explain to me why I shoot the little featherweight as well as I do.

Hope I'm not boring anybody with this, it's just extremely eye opening when the "light comes on" concerning gun weight.

SRH

Stan,
Not at all, very informative and glad you posted this. It explains why some of my lightweight guns shoot well for me. Some of the light alloy framed guns seem slower because of the weight extremes at the ends.
Karl

DO you have two forends?

No-the gun I had looked at came with 2 barrels. I decided against purchasing it.