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there is absolutely no right or wrong way to mount a shotgun, within limits.....no disrespect meant, but what in the world does that mean, Joe? within limits.....huh??


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Proper pitch will help more than many realize. When the pitch is correct and the toe and heel have a solid foundation you don't need your cheekbone to complete the gun mount.

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wort: I've seen guys shoot 25 from the hip on the skeet field.
A bud had a quail flush in front of him, caught the butt of his double on his vest, went ahead and shot and dropped the bird.

The rest of us mortals need some tactile reference that communicates with our muscle memory that our right (if a righty) eye is where it need to be in relation to the plane of the barrels.

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A fairly accomplished shooter wink Ignore the tape; we don't even want to go there



And BTW: the LOP on her non-pre-mount international skeet gun is waaay too long smile



This doesn't work so good and his smiling instructor should be paying better attention


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Originally Posted By: liverwort
Proper pitch will help more than many realize. When the pitch is correct and the toe and heel have a solid foundation you don't need your cheekbone to complete the gun mount.


May I axx.......... if you have no cheeking of the stock, is it not difficult to do it the same way every time? Many of us have had hip shooting successes .......... I killed six doves straight from the hip once............ but I'd never be able to shoot in the 90s on a sporting clays course from the hip. The gun mount is not the only thing that has to be done right to kill the bird. Everything has to be done right.

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25 years ago I shot a Fox Sterlingworth with a 3in DoH for multiple duck season often running 6 or more ducks in a row


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Drew, I'm sure you were speaking tongue in cheek about the "Girl" whose stock was way too long. I find her mounting to be uncomfortable to look at, but she has medals from about six straight Olympics. Personally, I use what gun is at my shoulder at any given time, and I don't do so badly. I have shot in competition for medals and money since I was fifteen years old. I have a sixty five year shotgun collection and have never had one bent or otherwise modified. I have not had bores modified on one either. Two years ago, I bought a high condition Purdey pigeon gun with the money I didn't spend on ruining the bores and chokes of my other guns.

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Sorry I wasn't more clear. I didn't mean to say you don't use your cheek at all, but that with the proper pitch on your gun you aren't trying to hold the gun inline with your eye with your cheek. Pitch and drop at comb work together to help align the gun. I am also not saying proper comb height is not important. I am only saying, in addressing the original posters question, that if a gun has your correct pitch that can help you shoot a gun with a 1/2 inch too much drop. I think I read what he was asking correctly? I also bow to expertise on the subject as well.

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In general I've always done better with a little more drop than with a gun where I can see much if any rib at my crawliest point, and the joe average 1.5 x 2.5 works. So when I picked up an LC Smith with 2 3/4" of DAH and a Fox with 3" of drop I was surprised. My initial reaction was, "I can shoot these!" That will soon be proven or disproven as winter is finally easing up here.

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Don't "learn' how to shoot it, restock the damn thing.

They're worth it.

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Just came upon Hints on Shooting and Hunting Game; Life Experience of Frederick H. Erb, Jr.

He demonstrates the low gun style of Live Bird shooting "20 years ago" (written in 1904) contrasted with the post-1900 pre-mounted position
https://archive.org/stream/howtotraindogsca00erbf#page/46/mode/2up



And we were, and are, all different. Ready positions at the 1896 GAH at Live Birds; some standing straight, some with an exaggerated forward lean, most in-between



What most certainly will NOT work is to try to alternate between doubles with significantly different dimensions. Pick a mount style, and dimensions that work for you, and stick with them.
And BTW: back in my younger days I would stop shooting trap at least 2 mths before bird season and only shoot low gun skeet, with my (one) quail and pheasant gun.

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