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I did some articles on Perry and Wilkes Barre about 10 years ago for DGJ.
There were 4 grades of Hammerless guns. A, B, C, D and a few special guns.
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Thanks Bob, I'll look for the articles, though I remember reading them about that long ago. Anyone have the issue information?...Geo
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Brother George
I wouldn't call the Hollenbeck, TBG, and Royal Gun company double guns precursors to what are known as the "American Classics", given that the first examples weren't available prior to 1901; but they were certainly high quality and expensive guns for the time, which surely had a lot to do with the inability of the three iterations of this company to sell in sufficient quantities and survive. Most of their production was in drillings, which models seem to show up for sale regularly; but if you ever get a chance to handle one of the Hollenbeck double guns I think you'll be impressed.
Yes Daryl, I'd surely like to see your engraved N.R. Davis; as I've certainly never seen one personally. And while you're posting photos of that gun be sure to share pix of your 16 gauge Krupp barreled Hollenbeck double gun; that's one heck of a nice piece! Tom
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"I did some articles on Perry and Wilkes Barre about 10 years ago for DGJ. There were 4 grades of Hammerless guns. A, B, C, D and a few special guns."
Bob, why not post some pix of your Wilkes-Barre collection; as I recall you had some very nice examples.
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Brother George
I wouldn't call the Hollenbeck, TBG, and Royal Gun company double guns precursors to what are known as the "American Classics"...Tom I'll have to defer to your knowledge Tom. I see the drillings from time to time, but don't know I've ever seen one of their doubles. My thinking on the Hollenbeck connected companies was in reference to my recollection of his previous interests in Smith, Ithaca and Baker. Not sure I even have that right...Geo
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George
I've no idea how many Hollenbeck, TBG, and Royal Gun Co double guns were made; but do know they are very uncommon; and I believe there are more Hollenbeck marked double guns than those marked Three Barrel Gun Co. I have one example of each; and except for the makers name, these two models seem identical mechanically. I don't have an example marked Royal Gun Co; but the frame profile on those models are different, and the location of the pins on each side of the frame has been changed so there are obviously some internal differences I've yet to explore. Perhaps Frank Lefever modified the Royal double gun during his tenure? The early Hollenbeck marked catalog copy I have lists grades and prices for the Hollenbeck double gun; but the 1908 and 1909 Three Barrel Gun Co catalog copies I have make no mention of a double gun, nor does an original copy of a 1909 Royal Gun Company catalog owned by our friend Brett Farley; but the company obviously made double guns marked Royal Gun Company. I believe I recall Researcher stating that the Royal Gun Company double gun models were assigned a separate serial number block than the drillings (?); but the early Hollenbeck and TBG double gun serial numbers were sequenced right along with the drilling models. I hope to do a little more research on these models some day; but in the short run you can find 3-4 Hollenbeck double guns on the Cherry's Fine Guns website, and you'll likely look a long time before you find another example of a Hollenbeck double gun listed anywhere.
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I believe this is Daryl's N.R. Davis 
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And maybe Bob Cash will donate a 21 if I get Stan to ask him nicely?...Geo ROTFLMAO SRH
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George
.... I hope to do a little more research on these models some day; but in the short run you can find 3-4 Hollenbeck double guns on the Cherry's Fine Guns website, and you'll likely look a long time before you find another example of a Hollenbeck double gun listed anywhere. Tom, I did check the Hollenbecks on the Cherry site. I think you guys may be right about this one; I'd never seen one. Dang, I'm gonna need to buy another gun...Geo
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