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GaryW, it's the difference between practicality and performance. Some people are completely satisfied with what the engineers turn out for the masses. Those engineers are designing to a certain goal, which is seldom the highest level of performance from a product. Most people accept that the engineers did their job well, and accept that the status quo is satisfactory. Others are always asking .........."is this the best it can do?", and experiment to determine that. Neither one is wrong, and neither one is the only one that is right. It's just a difference in goals.

To use the well worn analogy of car engines again, most are satisfied with factory level performance. Some are always trying to squeeze more performance out of an engine. That is not wrong just because most don't understand why they do it. I'm not saying that you or Miller think "we" are wrong, but just like the people in Miller's past who acted somehow superior because they hotrodded a smallbore, so are there those who want to belittle others that dare to defy the olde, engraved in stone, gun "rules" that most of the world accepts as gospel. It's like we are committing heresy when we don't.

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Originally Posted By: GaryW
To each his own, but I've never understood why someone would want to shoot a 1 oz. load in a 28 ga. If you need 1 oz of shot, it performs much better in a 20, 16, or 12 gauge. Patterns with a 1 oz. load in a 28 gauge are not as efficient as the 3/4 oz. as pattern studies have proven. The recoil is staggering as well.


Someone gave me 4-6 boxes of 1 oz loads several years ago. I still havent shot any of it. Maybe I will some day.

Just so everyone knows not opposed to large bore guns, my latest purchase is a 12ga Beretta 1301 Comp black plastic, 9 round mag, gas jackhammer. It would certainly be my choice for plowing.

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I have a book written by Sir Joseph Nickerson, of Rothwell, Lincolnshire Wolds, England. He was one of the greatest game shots ever, surpassing many of Lord Ripon's record bags, and did so in modern times, dieing in 1990. He shot driven grouse and grey partridge on his estate, and partridge in Spain ...........even once shot quail with John Olin at Nilo Plantation here in S. GA. He used trios of O/U guns by Woodward, and then Purdeys. Late in life he shot a trio of Purdey 28 bores, to save weight as he waned in upper body strength. He stated that he usually averaged around 50% kills ratio with the 12s, and later the 20s, but when he went to the 28s his ratio on taking all shots in range increased to 1/1.8, or 56%. What's interesting about that? He shot 1 oz. loads in the 28 bores, finding them absolutely comfortable for a long day's driven shoots, even up into his early 70s in age.

Imagine that ...............going from 7 lb. 12 oz. 12 gauges to 5 1/2 lb. 28s shooting 1 oz. loads, and shooting the best in his life. If they kick that bad, how could a man in his seventies have done it?

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Perception of recoil is highly subjective, as everyone knows. I never really notice recoil at all when I'm shooting at game.

Just as an fyi, Fiocchi makes their Golden Pheasant load in 3 inch, 1 1/16 oz, 28 gauge.


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Originally Posted By: Goillini
Perception of recoil is highly subjective, as everyone knows. I never really notice recoil at all when I'm shooting at game.

Just as an fyi, Fiocchi makes their Golden Pheasant load in 3 inch, 1 1/16 oz, 28 gauge.


Yes, I bought 5 boxes of Fiocchi 3 inch #6 28 gauge loads with intent for turkey hunting this spring. Just haven't patterned them yet to see if just a 1/16 oz increase makes any difference in patterns compared to my Winchester 1oz loads.

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There is an article in Shooting Sportsman this month by Tom Roster about 1 oz. 28 ga. loads.

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