Wow. Pretty conservative bunch here. I don't have strain gauges, even if I have micrometers and a chronograph. I bought the gun from Ken at Kebco for $325. I like it. I'm certainly not going to send it to Liege for more than I paid for it. Guess I will cut the load to 4cc of BP and 4 cc of shot and call it good.If I lose a finger, I'll let y'all know.