Originally Posted By: SDH-MT
Remember DDT?
Is that what you call, "Be wary of silver bullet solutions that nicely fit green agendas".

Within a decade of the ban on DDT Falcon, hawks, eagles and osprey were well on the way to recovery. Full recovery still required some heroic measures. Pesticides just generally kill, that is what they do, indiscriminately.


It's tough to find quail population data from the distant past when few people were at all concerned about declining numbers, but what data there is seems to suggest that the good old days for quail coincided with the years when DDT use was at its' highest point.




Pheasant populations in Iowa were also much higher when DDT was the crop duster's best friend. But it would be silly to suggest that the widespread use of DDT was the only factor, in the manner that lead shot is blamed for everything :



But don't tell that to Steve, or Brent, or Larry, or LGF, or they will pretend to ignore you. I certainly don't expect that they would bother to look at any of these links. But for those who have brains, and actually use them to think and reason, there is some very interesting reading here that illustrates the agenda that carries over into much of the junk science that has been used to impose lead ammunition bans:

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-truth-about-ddt-and-silent-spring

https://www.sites.google.com/site/paulroebling/home/the-ddt-fraud-and-other-liberal-lies

https://whatthecrap.wordpress.com/2007/07/03/the-ban-of-ddt-science-that-wasnt/

But, but, but... what about the decline in eagle populations when DDT was in use? Well, “Bald eagles were reportedly threatened with extinction in 1921 — 25 years before widespread use of DDT,” or “After 15 years of heavy and widespread usage of DDT, Audubon Society ornithologists counted 25 percent more eagles per observer in 1960 than during the pre-DDT 1941 bird census.”

I really liked the quote from Albert Einstein at the top of the second article. Here it is... suitable for framing... my gift to Brent:



P.S.-- For rocky mtn bill... it only took about 15 seconds to add that picture to this post. No shit!





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