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" what passes for good science is little more than unfounded speculation."

Every writer has their own bias. Most research done, or paper written, are done so with a outcome in mind before they start. Sometimes they massage the data or facts to support their outcomes and sometime they ignore inconvenient data or even never publish at all if the outcome is not what message they want to project. Before you read any paper try to find out who paid for the paper or research. follow the money. If any "expert" cites other research or other papers see if they are in fact just citing their previous works to make their current work seem valid. If a writer only can find himself as an expert then the paper is worthless. Everyone sees the same sunrise, so if only he can see the sunrise, the light he is shining up your butt is not true sunlight.

All history is an interpretation of what happened, base on scant facts and a lot of conjecture. Not that they all get it wrong but facts can be viewed differently by different people or by the change of time. So any attempt to figure out what cause the PP to die off is just so much speculation.

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Originally Posted By: Joe Wood
Well, we did until drought, eye worms, and cecal worms put the population into a tailspin last year. Quail are incredibly fragile. But at the same time they have an incredible ability to reproduce just as soon as conditions improve.


The bobwhite's ability to double and triple brood, under the right conditions, means they can recover much quicker than most upland birds.

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Originally Posted By: KY Jon
" what passes for good science is little more than unfounded speculation."

Every writer has their own bias. Most research done, or paper written, are done so with a outcome in mind before they start. Sometimes they massage the data or facts to support their outcomes and sometime they ignore inconvenient data or even never publish at all if the outcome is not what message they want to project. Before you read any paper try to find out who paid for the paper or research. follow the money. If any "expert" cites other research or other papers see if they are in fact just citing their previous works to make their current work seem valid. If a writer only can find himself as an expert then the paper is worthless. Everyone sees the same sunrise, so if only he can see the sunrise, the light he is shining up your butt is not true sunlight.

All history is an interpretation of what happened, base on scant facts and a lot of conjecture. Not that they all get it wrong but facts can be viewed differently by different people or by the change of time. So any attempt to figure out what cause the PP to die off is just so much speculation.


Gives credence to "the medium is the massage".
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Don't insult hard working professional scientists with that bunk.

Talk about Stan's dove food plots.


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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
Don't insult hard working professional scientists with that bunk.

Talk about Stan's dove food plots.


This statement from the florescent gray man reminds me of that scene in "The Wizard of Oz" where the little dog Toto pulls back the curtain to reveal the truth that the Wizard is a fraud. Caught red-handed, he commands Dorothy, the Cowardly Lion, Scarecrow, and Tin-Man to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

What KY Jon says is absolutely correct. Agenda driven science is often an assemblage of cherry-picked data intended to arrive at a predetermined conclusion. It may all sound very impressive and be presented by people with very impressive academic credentials, but when you can easily pick out very glaring discrepancies that make no sense, and are in conflict with your own real world observations, there is a good chance you are reading junk.

This year, the U.S. has experienced an extremely low number of tornadoes for the month of May. Oklahoma went longer than any other year without a single tornado in April 2018. We are way below average, and this is exactly the opposite of what the Climate Change/Global Warming Guru's had predicted. But if you dare to question that fact, you will be ridiculed and branded as a kook and a denier by those with an agenda.


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If that is what you believe, don't avail yourself of all of the self serving agenda driven bunk that keeps 99% of the people on this site alive.

You can still confine your bile to conversation about Stan's food plots, and love of dove shooting.


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Wow, you'd think that I said that all science is junk science! Talk about bile florescent gray man. And oh by the way... could you perhaps tell us what your posts here concerning the demise of the passenger pigeon had to do with Stan's food plots?


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