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I've read here turkeys drive out ruffed grouse. A hunters' group is campaigning to introduce turkeys to Nova Scotia. Appreciate opinions of the US experience. Farmers are mostly against it but I don't know if it's for biological reasons or not wanting hunters on their lands. NS is good grouse country.
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Only opinion here King that I'm sure will differ with others. In places that I've seen turkeys range naturally, they seem to stay in balance with the other critters. While I don't get over there like I did in the past, after Wisconsin made a push to introduce turkeys, it took its toll on the ruffed grouse. I don't know if they left so much as had eggs and chicks eaten.
If introduced turkey becomes some great success story that exceeds expectations, it'll likely be at the expense of something else. They are a pretty aggressive predator with an effective exit strategy if something else tries to feed on them. I've seen them peck at their reflections on basement widows not long ago in an area that used to be respectable with grouse maybe fifteenish years ago. It's not impressive.
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Try and keep the turkeys out if you can. Many grouse hunters believe that our turkey population “success story” has come at the expense of our grouse population. Upon discovering turkey scratching in a grouse covert our standard procedure is to move on to the next covert.
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Here in southern NY/CT 30 years ago grouse were common if not plentiful, turkey were never seen. Now turkeys are plentiful and I saw a single grouse in the last 20 years about 6-7 years ago, nothing since.
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What... turkeys, or anti-2nd Amendment Nova Scotians? I think the latter are worse.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Sidelock
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turkeys are predatory varmints, that destroy grouse and other ground nesting birds...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Sidelock
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turkeys are predatory varmints, that destroy grouse and other ground nesting birds... +1 The turkey is simply another predator of grouse eggs and young (or anything else it happens to come across). Anytime you introduce a new species into an area, existing ones always feel the effect.
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go with the Turkeys....they are bigger...easier to hit.....taste better...usually can hunt them in spring and fall..and all without a dog.....plus you only have to kill one a year to think yourself a man.....
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If they are not there now I would not introduce them......IMO it would not be good for your grouse.
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