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Hello, I just looked at what I believe is and Ithaca NID but I'm not sure because of the serial number 433xxx and that it does not have cocking indicators. It is a very solid gun. It is also marked "field grade". It's got to be a NID but it not only has no cocking indicators but it also has a shallow drop at comb, 2.5 approx not the 3" my gun has. What do you think? Thank you.

Ithaca eliminated the cocking indicators on all NID�s by the time they got into this serial number range. The stock dimensions also had less drop as the 1930�s continued on. Sounds perfectly normal to me.

Bill Davis, Thank you very much. How about an opinion on the price? The shop has a tag on it of $429. There is some patina, and a bit of freckling all around but it seems very solid. The wood is worn near the action but the checking is all good. The screws are buggered a bit too. I thought I might offer $350. and see what happens? Thanks again.

Assuming it�s a 12ga the price is moderate retail. 12ga. Guns are very hard to sell these days unless they possess high condition. If the bores are nice and the top lever not past center$400 would be a good result. You can dress up the buggered screws. If it�s other then a 12ga. then it�s well priced already.

Thank you, Sir.

From my observations the cocking indicators were removed from the NID in the 459xxx serial number range. My .410-bore with cocking indicators --



and my No. 1 28-gauge without cocking indicators, 459536 --

According to the SN charts the NID was introduced in 1925 # #425,000.
A number in the 433,xxx range would have been made in 1926 & "Theoretically" should have the indicators. Numbers in the 439,xxx range were not reached until the 30's.

Walter looked up both of the guns I pictured above and they are both shipped in 1935. Up through Catalog No. 51 which equates to 1934, the NIDs were shown with cocking indicators. The new style NIDs without cocking indicators were introduced in Catalog No. 54 which equates to 1935.



These Field Grades with "NEW ITHACA FIELD GRADE" marked on the barrels like this --



were introduced in 1935, in the 459xxx range. I have recorded high grade guns in the 457xxx and 458xxx range without the cocking indicators, but generally guns in that range have the indicators.

I once owned a 10ga 1E, #434133 that did not have cocking indicators. On close examination you could see where they were plugged, I assume at the factory.

Thank you all for this additional information. I am going to have to go back and look at the gun again if for no other reason than verify what I thought the serial number read.

After reading your posts and looking at the pictures I took a look at my gun and realized another difference in the gun at the shop is that it had no forend release lever. So it now stands as no cocking indicators, no forend latch, and modern drop at comb. I will try to go back and reread that serial number.

Thank you, to you all for your replies.