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A while ago I started a thread on cheek slap. Thanks for all of those who responded. One thing that was never mentioned is how you hold your jaw when shooting. I've noticed when I shoot trap or skeet I mount the gun with a slack jaw and I'm wondering if in the recoil my jaw moves contributing to cheek slap?
I am a stress clencher and when hunting I mount the gun with clenched jaw and never get cheek slap.
I have yet to shoot a round of trap and keep my jaws tight together to see if that makes a difference.
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Try a big plug of Redman and see if that helps.
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You're serious ? I can't see where it makes ant difference how you hold your jaw. Just shoot and have fun.
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How do you say "PULL" with a clinched jaw? I suppose YOUR quail do not flush when you say PULL ? 
Last edited by skeettx; 06/18/18 04:24 PM.
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Mount your gun and try with a slack jaw and a clenched jaw. Your mounting position and cheek weld will change. Perhaps clenched wasn't the right word. In a relaxed state my teeth are slightly apart and my jaw muscles are relaxed. In a 'clenched' or closed position my teeth are closed and my jaw muscles may not be firing but are holding my jaw closed.
And yes jOe, welding the comb to a plug of Redman might make a difference.
skeettx with my two flushing labs you'd better be on your toes because there is no option to say 'pull' or 'flush' or whatever you use on your pointing dogs.
Last edited by Tamid; 06/18/18 05:12 PM.
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Tamid, Someone was joshing you. You dont shoot a gun with a clenched jaw. First of all, a clenched jaw tightens up the masseter muscle (the chewing muscle) and is going to move your face out. You wont be lined up down the rib anymore clenching your jaw. Holding a gun too tight makes them kick more and upsets fluid motion. Just relax and shoot your gun. If you are getting cheek slap, the gun doesnt fit you.
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Buzz,
You are correct that a clenched jaw tightens the massetter muscle and moves the jaw outward. I should have use a closed or open jaw in my first post. A closed jaw does not necessarily tighten the massetter muscle but with my gun does change my mounting position.
When I throw a gun up, swing and shoot I never get face slap. With the same gun a premount will give me a welt. I am looking at all aspects of my premount position.
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The first time I shot an 8 bore double rifle, it was suggested I keep my teeth together to cut down on the chance of getting my bell wrung. It works.
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I had to mount a gun to get to the answer but, for me, I shoot with a slack jaw, meaning that my jaws are not closed completely and the teeth do not touch, bottom jaw to top jaw.
I try to shoot as totally relaxed as possible and, I believe for me, closing my jaw and making the teeth contact between bottom and top jaws would be an indication, or maybe more accurately a result of, tension. And that is not at all what I want to feel as I trigger the gun.
Never had but one gun slap my cheek, and it was stocked waaaay too high.
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The first time I shot an 8 bore double rifle, it was suggested I keep my teeth together to cut down on the chance of getting my bell wrung. It works. Or biting your tongue off...
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