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Yes, it was made by Olin-Kodensha. The Repro Steel Shot Specials are expensive because there were fewer 12ga Repros made than either 20's or 28's, and the Steel Shot Specials are a tiny minority of that number. But if you get a 12ga Repro choked IC/M, you're OK with steel shot. The original guidance on those guns, from the maker, was that they were OK with steel unless they were choked full.
I don't know what Heavy Ducks are going for. Personally, because I like the Repro single trigger better than the 23 single trigger, I'd go with a Repro. But if you're thinking waterfowl hunting, it's not all that easy to find a 12ga Repro with 28" barrels choked IC/M. I have one, but they're a real minority. Most are M/F.
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It looks like it was made by Olin Kodensha - they still make the Winchester 101's don't they? The Japanese 101s have been gone for a long time. Last time I looked, the current 101s were being made by FN in Belgium.
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I have always been a fan of the 101s. I think they are well built. I know that the berettas and other have a lower profile but the 101 was a sweet gun. And, I think the prices they sell for is really fair.
I have been looking for a Parker repro steel shot gun off and on. Im getting more serious as i need to get what ever Im going to get home and start shooting it before season. Wood duck season in Ky is in September!!!!!
"Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun"
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The 23 Heavy Duck is a great waterfowler but pricey in today's market.I used a 60/70's Zoli and AYA Matador for years duck hunting killed a ton of birds shooting steel.They will break but for under 1k a bargain.Note you will kill more birds with a auto but not as fun.IMHO
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I know, the new benellis honestly point and handle like a nice over under. But they just clank and clatter too much
"Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun"
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I choose to buy a low end Model 21, which had been modified and lacked any collector value.
Michael Dittamo Topeka, KS
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Dito on the 21 less money than a Heavy Duck
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Biggest problem with the Japanese 101s is parts availability. I have a 12 and a .410, and they are pretty nice guns. The higher grade 101s were really nice,
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Biggest problem with the Japanese 101s is parts availability. I have a 12 and a .410, and they are pretty nice guns. The higher grade 101s were really nice, No, the biggest problem w/ 101's is that they kick the snot outta people - a personally verified and justifiably widespread reputation. I had one for a couple days. Gave my wife a black eye. When I admonished her for poor form she told me GFY and YOU shoot it. So I did (shoot it anyway) and after the second shot I put it in the rack with a FS sign on it. The gent that bought it a few minutes later - it was a reallly good price - was rather heavyset and loved the gun. At any rate, you're on your own w/a 101.
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I'm a relative lightweight at 180, but I have never found the kick from my 12ga 101 to be objectionable. Field grade, 28", sk/sk.
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