Posted as a stand alone topic on tested non-toxic load data. Reference made to tested data he submitted for the 19.0 grains of Red Dot and 1&1/8 oz. shot using all three hulls. (Remington, Federal and Cheddite). This 10 gauge 2&7/8 Red Dot load is simply just great for target use and some hunting applications. His data used 16 gauge hard nitro cards to fill the shot cup for good crimps. I and others use a fiber wad to achieve the same charge height. I use a lubed fiber filler to keep the flying bits under control. Pressure difference is not worth mentioning.