More like this recoil is not required to do the job than gun-shy, Geo? I wouldn't own hard-kicking when there are lots of shotguns, rifles and ammunition to provide satisfactory results without it. My experience on geese with 20ga Bismuth 3" 1 1/8, 1250fps No 4 relates to yours. The sight of it has always taken away recoil, and I'm really getting up there..