RGD, in this case, I'm happy to fit right in. I'll take the consensus opinion every time. It has the benefit of being vetted by the experiences of 1000's of owners and 100's of smiths. BTW, all guns will shoot loose eventually. The Europeans simply felt that looking after one's tools wasn't a bad idea.

I've been in Makinson's shop several times and had him work on my guns. I'm not unfamiliar with good smiths.

However, if you want to love Elsies and think they are the greatest, go ahead. To each their own. Lots of different guns to enjoy. However, constantly telling and implying the rest of us don't know our asses from second base because we don't share your enthusiasm will only generate scorn rather than the converts you wish.

Last edited by canvasback; 08/05/18 02:52 PM.

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