Have been off the site for a while and just saw yr note and question @ the "R.Watzke ouncase" I used to make O and L cases to order by hand as a hobby-business after i retired- was an Ophthalmologist for 28 years in Iowa city at the U.of Iowa Med school- then the same at the Casey eye Inst at Oregon health Sciences University in Portland Or for another 30 years. I made @ 95 cases- then stopped. I am now 95 and still shoot spt clays. can't hunt anymore but i still love SxS Doubles. I kept one case and it holds a Francotte Eagle 12g which fits it perfectly! Used to make a case from a tracing u would make of yr gun. Can't do it anymore unfortunately tho' I occasionally do a mild rehab on old and battered English case with character. (I A M NOT LOOKING FOR WORK!) thank you for ur interest! Bob W