Just a thought for those of you that have a 2" 12ga gun and may be looking for alternatives to English ammo. There's an ammo maker Aguila that makes a 1 3/4" shell in 7 1/2 shot that I found to be very modest in recoil with the 5/8 oz load spec'd at 1200 fps. Enough shot for quail and dove and produces fantastic patterns. I didn't pressure test any of them, but the indications on the brass were very light. I stumbled on a bunch on sale cheap years ago and bought a bit. They have a special plastic pedal shot cup too. Shot some dove and quail. But my 12s are heavy.

Last edited by Chuck H; 08/19/18 09:04 AM.