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You fellows have overlooked the chance to resurrect the "mint condition" debate grin


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Every dealer discription has a lot of midway barker in them. Kind of reminds me of those old Herters catalog which made me think fish would jump out of the water just to look at those lures.

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Those doll's heads can be a little problematic.

What about this one, Ted? Is it "wrong" too?
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/parker-1-shotguns-for-sale/parker-bhe-12-gauge-2

How about this one?
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/parker-1-shotguns-for-sale/parker-vh-28-gauge-1

Or this one:
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/parker-2-shotguns-for-sale/parker-ghe-20-gauge

Or this one:
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/parker-2-shotguns-for-sale/parker-ghe-20-gauge

I suppose all of these and the hundreds of other Parkers I've seen with less-than-perfect doll's head fitment are bogus guns?
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There is nothing really wrong with the rib extension fitment on the subject gun. It is well within what is considered normal.


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My thought as well, Brian.No problem with the rib screw or the knurling either, afaic.
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The rib screw is no concern. It is visible on a lot of barrels. It is simply a function of how they built them. The matting being out of alignment in tat one area is odd, maybe that combined with the other observations is evidence of a repair.


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If every tiny thing about a gun's rib matting, checkering, engraving or roll stamping has to be perfect for that gun to be original then there are thousands of true originals out there that "aren't". I've seen many examples of rib matting imperfections, imperfections in the roll stamping, etc., that were on undeniably original guns. The things were built by humans, using machines in some cases, but still operated by human hands. To think that no imperfections ever left the Parker factory is ridiculous.

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The guns were hand built, but in a production setting. Errors exist. Serial number inconsistencies, markings, etc. heck, i know of an engraver who said he recut the engraving on a DHE once where the dog had 5 legs on it.

One thing is for sure, no one working at the factory making the guns ever would have thought that the guns would be so studied and collected 100 years later to where we would be having this conversation today.


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Originally Posted By: B. Dudley
One thing is for sure, no one working at the factory making the guns ever would have thought that the guns would be so studied and collected 100 years later to where we would be having this conversation today.


This^^^!
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So, it went from “ That gun is RIGHT “to “ Lots of them look like that”.

Bunk. That was a $100 Gun, in 1880. It did not leave Parker gun works with the screw showing, or, the rib matting looking like that. Look again at the well used, but not abused, G that is for sale right here. Nearly perfect. None of the other guns you posted had the screw showing, or misaligned rib matting. The barrels were built, and THEN matted at the factory in a fixture. I’d bet on a D grade they were about perfect 99.9% of the time. I am by no means a Parker Brothers booster, but, they didn’t build junk, either. The dolls head should be far better fitted if it is as unused as the dealer claims with the price.
I have seen NOTHING that makes me believe the first gun is some kind of virgin.

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Ted

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