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Re: Greener Facile Princeps
Calgary Bill #523979 09/25/18 07:48 PM
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I believe you are right about the price. The letter from Greener with my FP40 noted this, although it wasn't entirely clear if it was 40 pounds for the whole gun or 40 pounds extra for the better wood, engraving, inlay, etc. I'd have to go back and read it again, but the number was a monetary quantity.

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Re: Greener Facile Princeps
Calgary Bill #523981 09/25/18 07:56 PM
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Most Greeer people can tell the difference between a G gun and a FP pretty quickly and from a distance. The actions, while somewhat similar, have different shapes and the barrel lumps are very different.

If the price is right on the FH70, and you dont want to have the ejectors repaired (due to cost, etc), take the springs out and make it an extractor gun. Shouldnt jack with the action functioning correctly at all.

Top tang safeties on FP, Gs and even Ds are pretty rare in the Greener world. Usually a very special order item.
Re: Greener Facile Princeps
LeFusil #523983 09/25/18 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: LeFusil
Most Greeer people can tell the difference between a G gun and a FP pretty quickly and from a distance. The actions, while somewhat similar, have different shapes and the barrel lumps are very different.

If the price is right on the FH70, and you dont want to have the ejectors repaired (due to cost, etc), take the springs out and make it an extractor gun. Shouldnt jack with the action functioning correctly at all.

Top tang safeties on FP, Gs and even Ds are pretty rare in the Greener world. Usually a very special order item.


I did notice that the forward part of the receiver had a pronounced roundness and slimmer than the rear portion--- presumably a feature of the Princeps.
Some idiot welded a piece on the safety to get a little more leverage. Yuk!!!
The gun is nicely housed in the case with the French type fitting. Uncommon on an English gun but have seen Scottish guns so fitted.
This gun needs refurbishing by a dedicated collector.
Re: Greener Facile Princeps
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As I recall, a best work gun, more or less independent of maker, cost around 125 BPS from the 1890's through the 1920's. Only a few makers had a relatively "steady diet" of best work. Most made more pedestrian guns and the occasional best work.

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Re: Greener Facile Princeps
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Originally Posted By: Blue Grouse
Not all of the Facile Princeps actions have the complex ejectors. Many use the Baker ejectors which are housed in the forend and are not particularly complex. The tricky ones are the "self-acting" and "unique" ejectors. Both of these ejectors work off of the mainsprings to effect the ejection. You can identify them by the arrangement of limbs and projections mounted on the front lump of the barrels. I have a G2 from 1899 which has the "self acting" ejectors and thankfully they work just fine. It is an ingenious system by must be tuned like a watch. Very few gunsmiths understand how they work. Did you look at the ejectors?
A picture is worth a thousand words...


Here is a example of a G2 "Unique" system.
The "Self-acting" system is a similar earlier version of the same type of mechanism
I've worked on a couple of them, including the one in the picture and will also start work on another ( Self Acting) in the next little while
And yes...that work is not for the faint of heart

All best

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The taste of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten.........
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