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Here's the complete statement concerning your illegal transport of a pistol King. You clearly weren't referring to a Savage model 24 rifle/shotgun combo gun:



Are you now trying to tell us that carrying a Savage model 24 is mostly prohibited in Canada? And how could you have bought your first one 60-odd years ago when Savage model 24's did not even exist at that time? And why did James (canvasback) warn you that your illegal transport of a pistol could result in you losing your right to own any sort of gun for the rest of your life?

Many of your Canadian Liberal opinions are decidedly anti-2nd Amendment, anti-NRA, and anti-gun. I've QUOTED many of them numerous times. I know you stand by them, but it is a lie to say there is no anti-gun rhetoric contained within them. Embracing and accepting your kind is about as smart as hiring a pedophile to babysit children.

You know what my questions in the "Judge Brett Kavanaugh" thread were. I repeated them several times. I even gave a link so you could easily click and go back to the thread where I posed them:

Simple Questions that King evaded several times.

Playing dumb about them is just further proof of your dishonesty and your twisting, flailing, and evasive behavior when it comes to dancing away from your lies.

Best info I can find is the Stevens 22-410 came out in 1938 or 80 years ago (year I was born). The Savage 24 in the same chambering came out in 1950 or 68 years ago. By 1960 it was also offered in 22 WMR for the rifle chambering.

My Savage 24 breakdown in leather two-pouch case is 22-20ga. with 12-plus 22s and three or four shells in the stock.

keith, I clicked and found one post #526291 from you, nothing about Kavanaugh as I assumed, not even a question, only asking me to prove circumstances of my father's welcome into the Church 25 years ago. Similarly, no question on gun rights except an ask for proof that I worked to end the long-gun registry and am working to stop another registry now.

I've explained earlier why there was nothing radical in accepting Dad within the wide variances of Christian churches, including the Catholic and others who interpret doctrine differently, citing myth and metaphor etc. Look at the tectonic disruption in Roman Catholicism today. The baptism celebrants and bishop of the time are dead. But let's look at "proof" fairly.

You have a different opinion from mine about gun control and the Second. Look at my quotes you've posted above. The Second has been a perpetual debate dividing your country. Prove to me that the quotes are lies and anti-gun rhetoric. Prove Americans see the Second your way, indivisibly. Prove or let it rest.

Rom 3:3� For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?�
Rom 3:4� God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.�

Joh 12:47� And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.�
Joh 12:48� He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.�
Joh 12:49� For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.�
Joh 12:50� And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.�

It Doesn't matter what any man or any Religion says, Jesus states in no uncertain manner the Words Which "HE" spoke is what man will be judged by.
I would Truly Hate to stand before an Eternal God stating I thought His Son was a Liar, when he claimed to be the Resurrected Savior of the World.

King, just as I predicted, your reply is simply more twisting and more of your evasiveness. You innocently claim you assumed I had questions about Kavanaugh when you know that isn't what we were sparring about when you kept insisting upon taking that thread off-topic.

You totally steered clear of acknowledging your lies concerning your repeated illegal transport of a pistol back and forth across the U.S.-Canadian Border. First you called me a liar for mentioning that illegal transport. Then you concocted the lie that it was a Savage 24 that you illegally crossed the border with. Then I provided a QUOTE from you admitting that you had carried your pistol across the border several times. Later, you changed your story again, and admitted carrying the pistol across the border once in 1983, and illegally carrying a pistol around Canada for decades in your fishing kit:



Later, you concocted yet another story that claimed you had the right to carry a pistol in your airplane because you were a licensed professional trapper. Now that was a new one to those of us who have been treated to your bloviations and your vast resume. But it still wouldn't make it lawful to repeatedly transport a pistol across the border. And that is why canvasback warned you that your behavior could result in you being banned from owning any firearms for the rest of your life.

I see you still cannot come up with a tiny shred of evidence that any Catholic church university, parish, diocese, Priest, Monsignor, Bishop, or Pope has loosened the rules and requirements concerning belief in the Resurrection before Baptism. And it appears you don't want to go near the repeated question of why your father would wish to join a religion that he knew was based upon the biggest lie and fraud in history???

But this isn't your first dishonest pronouncement about religion, is it? You also told us that non-belief in the Resurrection was common in the United Church of Canada, and you dishonestly led us to believe that such positions led to overflowing churches. But that was just more lies. I checked your story and learned that the United Church of Canada had lost over 50% of its' membership in the last 50 years, and was fractured and the fastest declining church in Canada.

Of course, it was perfectly in character for you to cite a failing church and their insane Leftist Liberal leaders, who have strayed far from their roots, and place more emphasis on homosexual Deacons, gay marriage, and whacked-out environmentalist dogma... when their Mission Statement and Founding Principles actually say this:

We believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, Who, for us men and our salvation became man and dwelt among us.

We believe that He lived a perfect human life, wholly devoted to the will of God and the service of man.

We believe that in Him God comes face to face with men; so that they learn that God loves them seeks their good, bears their sorrows and their sin, and claims their exclusive faith and perfect obedience.

We believe that in Jesus Christ God acted to save man, taking, at measureless cost, man's sin upon Himself; that the Cross reveals at once God's abhorrence of sin and His saving love in its height and depth and power; and that the Cross is for all time the effectual means of reconciling the world unto God.

We believe that Jesus was raised victorious over death and declared to be the Son of God with power; and that He is alive for evermore, our Savior and our Lord.

So we acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God Incarnate, the Savior of the world.

And only you King, could argue that your rhetoric concerning the 2nd Amendment is not anti-gun, or that it has any place here in this forum, simply because there are Liberals like you who are in denial of the clear intent of the Framers. It is Liberal Left Socialists like you who frequently resort to dishonesty to twist their words. You would consider it racist to say that Civil Rights is a fraud and a recent invention that has no merit, simply because there is not unanimous acceptance of it. Yet you frequently bring your anti-gun propaganda to this forum on the same basis. You asked me to prove that the QUOTE I posted from you was a lie and anti-gun rhetoric, but I had already done that. It is a fact that there is a much higher per capita murder rate in Russia than in the U.S., despite a much lower rate of firearms ownership there. There are many other similar examples disproving your anti-gun propaganda. But the truth is such a foreign concept to you that you simply will not accept it.

I will not let it rest King. Your anti-2nd Amendment, anti-gun, and anti-NRA rhetoric will be your enduring legacy here. If what you post here is an example of your claims about working to prevent another gun registry in Canada, you will be siding with the anti-gunners... as you do here. Your lies, bullshit, and name-dropping bloviation is just icing on the cake, and proof that Liberalism is a mental illness.

Another what could have been an interesting conversation about non-toxic shot deteriorated into a P-----g Match. Ever think about putting each other on ignore.

Nothing really interesting about non toxic shot...It works it's not worth the cost.

Truth is nothing really beats lead shot for killing things.

I'm more worried about the caravan of invaders headed towards our southern border.

Listen up, dear keith. Your first sentence: look up "insisting." It never happened. If you're referring OT, all members do it from time to time. You're confused about the pistol and Savage Model 24, two separate incidents over widely separated times. The illegal transport in my "hunting kit," of which the Mounties had been informed beforehand concerning its use, resulted in not as much as an admonition or rebuke. It was a different time. The other was illegal transport in my "aircraft survival kit", having forgot to remove it entering the US. Even today the transgression would most likely be accommodated with a warning. I broke the law decades ago. So what?

I've explained how my father was accepted into the Church in the last year of his life. It's irrelevant to me if a bilous person in Ohio doesn't believe it and accuses me of lying. I remember the words of a dear priest and retired professor of our university's philosophy department: "It's enough to come on the last day, on the last breath. There's no litmus test." Many may disagree with him. That's acceptable to me. I respect all faiths, warts and all. I try to follow Christ's injunction to love---and wrestle with it at times. What I won't do is stoke the polarization of anger, fear and hate you've exhibited here which is tearing apart, taking your great country down. It's not the Canadian way.

Have a good day.

I haven't thought of it, oskar, although you make a good point. Closing eyes and ears, from my experience, is the fastest way to irresponsible authoritarianism.

I get around, travel in wide circles, and can say unequivocally that I've never encountered in Canada the immoderation of the US.

Even there, though, I get the sense there's the same enduring struggle of humanity to be human, perhaps by a majority.

Listening this morning on national radio to a Stanford professor explaining US study of how partisan politics is affecting how citizen choose marriage partners!

I get slapped around here for my opinions by Canadian and American members who don't let politics affect their friendships.

It will stay that way. Believe me.