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I have several doubles on which the top lever "Always", stops at the center position. I would venture to say that even though at least three of these are at least 100 years old they would still hit to the same point they did when new assuming the same load was used. Two of these have no bolt wear compensation, though they still bolt up tight. The other, an early Lefever has compensation but it is separate & apart from the top lever.
On the assumption this was a ball & shot, gun I "Personally" would much prefer this large hole to one of those itty bitty holes. Believe what you will, it is well documented the place for a small aperture is on the target range, not in the woods. The biggest problem most have is not the lack of ability to focus on the front sight but the ability to focus on Both the Front & Rear sights. at the same time. The peep, even with the large hole eliminates having to focus on the rear., you just look through it.
Miller/TN I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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tigers 37...
tide 16...
hit don look good...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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....Believe what you will, it is well documented the place for a small aperture is on the target range, not in the woods. The biggest problem most have is not the lack of ability to focus on the front sight but the ability to focus on Both the Front & Rear sights. at the same time. The peep, even with the large hole eliminates having to focus on the rear., you just look through it. Only conversation here Miller. I think the large opening is intended for hunting. But, the thin ring and dark color might be difficult to pick up without the luxury of time and concentration that would be easier to come by on the target range. Also assuming it's intended for ball, that doesn't appear to be an intuitive sight for short range, quick, reflexive shooting. When discussing the proper use of the front and rear sight along with the target, it doesn't make sense to me to intentionally move the windage every two shots. Subjectively, I don't believe all top levers have such positive stops. No big deal, I'm kinda enjoying the tide get rolled.
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oh well, it was clemson's turn...have at erm agin next year...
anyway, what is the purpose of a ghost ring sight on a shotgun? any value on a skeet gun?
Last edited by ed good; 01/08/19 08:26 AM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ed did they just left you out again ? Pssss...Ed. hear tell it's okay for gun dealers to sell guns in the sale section. I'd like to see some of your guns in there Ed.
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What say Ed...
You're awful quiet they lock you back in the funny farm ?
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After having more time to consider this contraption I believe there is no way it could function, as a true aperture sight does, to sharpen focus and extend field. The hole in it is simply too big, and the device is too far from the eye. It would never do anything to help aging eyes focus on anything useful to a shotgunner.
Actually, there is a type of aperture sight called a ghost ring sight which has a large aperture. They are primarily used for hunting because they are much faster and easier to acquire the target in hunting situations such as running game or low light. They are not as precise as a target aperture, but the eye naturally centers the front sight bead in the center of any size aperture, so they tend to be more precise than many standard open sights. The position of this "sight" is not much different than many tang mounted sights. And it does provide a longer sighting radius than a barrel mounted open sight would. Also, an aperture sight with a large enough hole helps aging eyes to focus on the front bead. Focus on a small distant object, then look at the same object through a pinhole poked in a piece of cardstock to see this effect. As Miller noted, it would require a top lever system that returned to center so it wouldn't gradually change windage as the locking bolt surfaces wore over time.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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I've shot some awful small 100 yard groups with a Lyman 48 (with no aperature) on a Sedgly Springfield I used to own and with the big peep sight on my left hand Rock River AR.
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What caliber is your LH RR AR upper? Mine is 458 SOCOM.
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Mine is a left hand .223 operator elite...scary acurate. It's sighted in and ready to go. I hope to never shoot it again.
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