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Wow KDGJ, I didnt realize the wealth of info on that site! I signed up, and got an extremely informative history of the firm. Thanks for the recommendation!

Atkin, Grant, and Lang do have the records for James Lang, and emailed me a picture for free! I'm still waiting to pay to get the paper copy and letter. The records are fairly detailed with barrel weights and such.

I'm compiling a list of known guns based on serial numbers and what action type the have- I would appreciate hearing about any that you see or have! It won't be as detailed as Argo44's on Reilly but it would be fun to see how many of each type of action they made

And if anyone sees a James Lang case label PLEASE let me know/get a picture! The internet gun club has a pic of a damaged one, I would love to have one recreated for my case!

Here's a few - don't know if you got them:

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http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?303014-James-Lang-London-577-Express
Just bought this from an old friend who's health has failed. He didn't want a stranger to have it.

The 26" barrels are inscribed James Lang 18 Brook St New Bond St London. I'm guessing it was made in Birmingham and sold by Lang. Not a "BEST" gun but still very nice. It's chambered in 577 and uses the 3" case and is marked (577 EXPRESS) plus the usual proof marks. James Lang was a son of well known London gun maker Joseph Lang Sr. and had his own shop for a few years during the 1880's but merged with his brother Joseph's business in 1887. With the short 26" barrels and the 577 EXPRESS markings I'm guessing it was made in the mid to late 1880's. I got loaded ammunition, dies, brass, bullet mould and some Hawk jacketed bullets with it.



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13111. Lang & Hussy
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101103049
Hammerless Sidelocks - Built in 1897 this stunningly beautiful sidelock is in wonderful condition. This gun has been restored to near new condition to the highest of standards.
This shotgun shows near 100% case color and near 100% barrel black and wood finish. The barrel sets are quite versatile in their choke combinations with an open choked set for close in work like for Quail and skeet and the number 2 set with tight chokes for those late season south Dakota roosters or sporting clays. Note the light weight, 6 lbs. 6 oz!
* The case colors were done by the best in the world, St. Ledger in the UK. *** Note: To see this gun with high resolution photos and a zoom-in feature, go to the vintagedoubles main site and search for the gun ID: 3333 or browse the main site to see our full gun collection.
Price: $7,900.00



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https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=100965635

t's a Best Quality Sidelock Hammer Bar In Wood Pigeon Gun made by James Lang in 1891. James Lang sold his interest in Joseph Lang and Sons and started on his own for a brief period in the early 1880s. I don't think that he made more than a couple of hundred guns but the few that I have seen have all been very nice. This gun is no exception. It has original 30 inch barrels with a high pigeon rib. The hammers on the lgun disappear from the line of sight when they are cocked. I purchased the gun from Australia and the stock was broken and had two steel side bolsters holding it together. I was planning to have it restocked but the wood was just too nice. I sent it to my favorite stocker and he was able to bring it back to life. It took two pieces of maple, a lot of fiberglass, and recheckering but is now very strong and the wood is absolutely beautiful. I was also able to find a period Westley Richards hammer gun case that was lovingly refurbished by a gentleman in England that is the perfect compliment to the gun. At about 7 lbs 8 ounces it balances like a much lighter gun and is a joy to shoot!



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10602

https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/278208-james-lang/
Can any one tell me anything about this gunsmith a mate has a side by side assisted opener box lock ejector by James Lang it's been sleeved at some time after 1956



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10382, 10383
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/j...86-c-40443b8aa3
Lot 186: JAMES LANG A PAIR OF 12-BORE BOXLOCK EJECTOR GUNS, NOS. 10382/3 No.1 gun with 30-inch replacement barrels by Joseph Lang & Son, with 2 1/2-inch chambers about 1/2 and full choke borings, No.2 gun with 30-inch damascus barrels with 2 1/2-inch chambers



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https://www.bellbrosguns.co.uk/product/f...lled-hammergun/
A FINE RARE JAMES LANG 8-BORE (3 1/4 IN) 1865 PATENT ROTARY-UNDERLEVER DOUBLE-BARRELLED HAMMERGUN�9,000.00
JAMES LANG 8-BORE (3 1/4 IN) 1865 PATENT ROTARY-UNDERLEVER DOUBLE-BARRELLED HAMMERGUN , nitro reproved bold damascus barrels, rib engraved �JAMES LANG, 18 BROOK STREET. NEW BOND STREET, LONDON �, 3, action with carved serpentine fences, rebounding back-action locks, dolphin hammers, Jones patent rotary-underlever, fine border and acanthus scroll engraving, retaining much patina, well-figured stock including orange silver butt-plate,

I'll add this site - the guy claims to have the James Lang records....my computer warned that the certs expired yesterday and wouldn't let me visit the site:



And this comment:

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11035

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...er-double-rifle
Manufactured between 1894 and 1896. Barrels with doll's head extension, beaded blade front and three leaf (one standing, two folding) rear notch sights, and barrels marked "JAMES LANG & Co./102 NEW BOND STREET LONDON" on the left and right respectively. The receiver, hammers, and lock plates feature full coverage fine English scroll engraving with sculpted percussion fences, London black powder proofs on the water table, maker's marks on the rebounding locks, double triggers and sliding hammer block safeties. All visible numbers match. With checkered splinter forearm with engraved fittings, well figured checkered pistol grip stock with engraved grip cap, blank silver initial oval, raised cheekpiece, and solid rubber recoil pad. Stock measurements are: drop at comb 1 1/2 inches; drop at heel 2 1/8 inches; length of pull 14 1/2 inches, weight 10 lbs. 4 oz.



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913 ??

http://www.heritageguns.co.uk/Lang%20913%20SLE/Lang%20913%20SLE%20Details.htm
James Lang & Co, 18 Brook Street, New Bond Street, London
12 bore Back Action, Sidelock Ejector
no. 913
Date of manufacture: Pre-1897



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http://www.shotguns.se/html/british_guns.html
James Lang London Sidelock ejector Imperial modell. No 1 of a pair. Sleeved and restored but a nice working gun.
Gauge: 12/70
Barrel length: 28�
Choke: 1/4 and 1/2
Weight: 3200g
Price: 2400 � / 23000 sek



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10346

http://www.champlinarms.com/Default.aspx...&GunID=3237
#10346, James Lang, 18 Brook Street, New Bond Street, London: A James Lang (Son of Joseph Lang) 450 3 1/4" BPE, A very nice 19th Century Jones Action Underlever Back-Action Non-Rebounding Hammer 450 3 1/4" Black Powder Express Double Rifle with excellent bores, Made in 1891, 28" damascus barrels, Alexander Henry's Patent A&T barrels numbered 3668 & 3669 that most likely were done in house as they are stamped J. L., Full length rib with 1 standing & 2 folding express platinum lined rear sights, Proofed in London, Carved percussion fences, Rear hammer sliding stalking safeties, Swing lever forend release, A neat horn grip cap, Sling eyes, Nickel Silver escutcheon without initials, 14 5/8" LOP over a steel buttplate, 8 lbs. 10 oz., Very Nice wood, Shadowline cheekpiece, 95% coverage of very well cut period scroll engraving that remains sharp and crisp and includes the hammers, top strap, lever, trigger guard and forend, 30% original case colors remain, The damascus barrels have been blacked but a very long time ago, The original wood finish is an honest 85%, The checkering is at 95%, The stock & forend are as solid as the day it was delivered, The metal remains in excellent to excellent plus condition, The bores and chambers are absolutely excellent to near excellent plus & on a scale of 1 to 10 they remain a 9, The rifle is accurate and will produce 2 1/4" groups at 100yards. It has 2 each front sights, 1 the original and a very nice and well-done replacement in the original dovetail cut. This is flat-out one solid 127-year-old gun that has a lot of mileage left in it.



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https://www.barnebys.com/auctions/lot/47...r-double-rifle/
Closed auction
Engraved James Lang & Co. Back Action Hammer Double Rifle

USAUSAEnded 2 Dec 2018
Low estimate
4 500 USD
Non-Affiliate Rock Island Auction Company
About the object
Manufactured between 1894 and 1896. Barrels with doll's head extension, beaded blade front and three leaf (one standing, two folding) rear notch sights, and barrels marked "JAMES LANG & Co./102 NEW BOND STREET LONDON" on the left and right respectively. The receiver, hammers, and lock plates feature full coverage fine English scroll engraving with sculpted percussion fences, London black powder proofs on the water table, maker's marks on the rebounding locks, double triggers and sliding hammer block safeties. All visible numbers match. With checkered splinter forearm with engraved fittings, well figured checkered pistol grip stock with engraved grip cap, blank silver initial oval, raised cheekpiece, and solid rubber recoil pad. Stock measurements are: drop at comb 1 1/2 inches; drop at heel 2 1/8 inches; length of pull 14 1/2 inches, weight 10 lbs. 4 oz.

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http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/112/1899653.html




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10652

http://www.salisburyauctioncentre.co.uk/documents/Sporting-August-2015-Catalogue.pdf
121 James Lang sidelock ejector 1/4 & 3/4 28" sleeved barrels Sn 10652; �120-150

Since the records exist, it doesn't seen worthwhile to make one's own Lang encyclopedia; plenty of accurate history seems to be there.

As for labels, I'm wondering if James Lang didn't just continue using the old Joseph Lang labels. Here are a James Lang matched pair SN 10411 & 10632....but the case has the Joseph Lang label.
http://heritageguns.co.uk/Lang%20SLE%20Pair/Lang%20SLE%20Pair%20Details.htm



This auction sold an allegedly original James Lang case with Label (no pics of the label). Might try to contact them though 6 years have passed:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ukauctioneers.com/pdf_catalogues/1565_with_images.pdf