Seller is trying to sell the name. See it all the time with Winchester, Browning and Parker owners. Unless you are a real collector, a person who is only interested in the highest condition, completely original and as near to unfired as possible, then you are either a shooter looking for another toy or an accumulator who buys without real understanding of whats good and whats junk. The seller is an accumulator who thinks he has a great gun to sell just because it says Winchester on the side of the gun. Not quite.

Ive had to tell sellers what they have is a common example, of a entry level gun, in average condition, made by the same maker who made higher grade guns. Its like they owned a Chevette, which was made by the same company who made Corvettes. Same maker, sounds a little alike but not nearly the same. That they understand.