Hi wall was the old gentleman's description of it. I was not familiar enough with it nor did I have enough interest in the piece to challenge or question him further on it. My interest was only in his statement that no bullets nor a mold could be found after three years of his looking. I even mentioned to him this bulletin board and the knowledge base that exists here and almost bet him I could find what he was looking for, which of course, many on here have so abundantly provided. As I stated before, his only interest was getting out from under this piece that he could not "readily" acquire the necessities for shooting and nothing else.