Miller, those two presses look stout. What is the cylinder shaped object above the funnel with the Thalson? Deprimer base or resizing die? My MECs look flimsy in comparison. My PW 375 looks cut (but not quite as thick) from the same cloth as the Thalson and Lyman. Those are impressive. In the below photo is my .410 brass hull reloading kit. L-R. funnel, primer seater used in conjunction with steel square and un-pictured rubber mallet, deprimer seat, deprimer ram, two 3" hulls. I have the kits for 20 and 12 with hulls. The kits are made by Rocky Mountain Cartridge and are reasonably priced. The dippers are all from France. The red handled one and double-ender in nickel silver are marked with the Manufrance symbol. Manufrance was the Sears-Roebuck of France but with better guns. Damascus, that appears to be a no nonsense approach to a single stage and looks sturdier than my MECs. Correct me I am wrong, but from what I understand, the reloaders in the UK are mostly waterfowlers. Gil