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I know of no proper way or repairing a blown tube other than shortening the barrels. You could sleeve them or re-barrel but I'm not sure you are much better off. I just shortened a set of Westley Richards drop lock barrels because the muzzle was blown. He was very lucky though and lost less than an inch of length and still has plenty of choke.
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Bummer! Crown over crossed pistols suggests damascus barrels? Do all the numbers match? Ejectors or extractor? The Grade of the Diamond Quality guns was, in part, defined by that feature. The year of manufacture was also a factor in determining which grade. The most common Diamond Quality grade (I think) was "275") w/ejector,"225" w.o. Usually two or three fine banknote engraved game scenes and usually no gold embellishment. These Lindner guns were available from before 1899 to WW1. Grade "375" w/ejector, "325" w/o. Heavy, deep chiseled Germanic engraving, lots of gold critters. For $500 you could order a "Regent Diamond" Quality. The rib was marked "Regent Diamond" and a gold crown on the bottom of the action. Very few were made so beware of fakes. Ken's book is a must have for Daly guys.
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Not sure how to post pics but it's in fair condition. All numbers match and it does have ejectors. I think it would be a 200 grade based on it being a Diamond Quality gun made prior to 1892. This gun has a deer with quail on the underside of the action with no gold inlays so definitely not a Regent Diamond. Wanna figure out what I should list it for seeing Superior and Empire grade Dalys listed for more than $5K on Gunsinternational.
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I kinda suspected that may be the case Steve, but its still depressing to hear there is no road back for vam5067s Daly that doesnt leave it significantly altered.
The 275 is what I have and, as luck would have it, my favourite grade level. Either the 275 or the extractor version. I find the 300 level and 500 level a bit much for my tastes. Not typically a fan of gold inlay on firearms.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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What would be the length if you clean it up? 30 cut to 28 isn't bad. 26 cut to 23, not so good.
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Ejectors were introduced in 1888. By 1892, Diamond quality ejector guns were designated "250" grade. If you are willing to share the serial number it would help Ken's research as official keeper of the Daly data base. You have a Lindner built gun and to me more desirable than post lindner Prussian Dalys. The terms "Empire" and "Superior' don't show up until several years after lindner died. Dalys were stupid expensive in the day and many surviving examples have been rebarreled. I currently have two rebarreled Diamond Quality Dalys that are great shooters. It's expensive but very few 20 gauge Diamond Quality Lindner Dalys were built and fewer survive today. Bring it to the Southern.
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Barrel length would go from 28" to 26" so not unusual on a 20ga. Serial number is 369X.
Cutting the barrels and prepping them for blacking should be less expensive than having a matching Damascus pattern mated to the damaged barrel. From what I'm gathering, this gun is valuable enough to recoup my investment.
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Sounds like the beginning of a plan. What condition is the rest of the gun? Is the damascus pattern crisp and well defined? The remaining bores clean and straight? The wood solid with acceptable dimensions? Are the engraving and screw heads still sharp and well defined? Trigger pulls and ejectors work satisfactorily? If the answers are "yes", IMHO, go for it, someone will surly be interested. 26" Diamond Quality 20 ga with Thin-walls would make a great shooter. Cheers, Jon
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Gun is in good condition except barrels which are fair. Because I have to alter the barrels I'm going to refinish them as well. Might as well make it look good if it's not original. Bores are shiny. Wood is faded but I've seen worse. Haven't tested the triggers and ejectors but LOP is 14". Thanks for the kind words!
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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