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It's true Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act, but their arms were being severely twisted by President Johnson. The Republican Party since Reagan's day has not been in the forefront of any equality movement. Can you prove these statements Billy???... especially the part about LBJ twisting Republican arms to get the votes to pass the Civil Rights Acts of 1964, and the 1965 Fair Housing Act. Then tell us how and why LBJ was supposedly able to twist a lot more Republican arms than Democrat arms. Billy, you should Google "Lyndon B. Johnson racist" and see what pops up. Even the highly Liberal Snopes fact checkers freely admit his extreme racism and relates that he referred to the 1957 Civil Rights Act as the "Ni**er Bill". I wonder why you Democrats never want to go anywhere near the truth about such things? Obviously, you're still lying, and compounding lies with more lies. Then you move on to blame Trump for environmental damage that was done long before he entered politics. Your statement claiming that humans are the only species that destroys its' own habitat is simply stupid, and evidence that you just repeat propaganda without any thought or reason. One quick example, without much thought required, is a swarm of locusts. Many more easily come to mind. But it does require that you have a mind. It's hard to fathom why anyone would wish to debate you Billy. You aren't very smart, and you've been caught in numerous lies here. But it is quite entertaining and educational to see you once again making an ass of yourself, and saying virtually anything to prove your Socialist points. By the way, how did Obama provide health insurance for 20 million people who didn't have it before? Who pays for it, and how much does it cost compared to the cost for similar coverage prior to Obama taking office? And tell us why his plan which was supposed to make health health care affordable precipitated double digit annual percentage cost increases. Then tell us why Obama left over 37 million without coverage, and why he was so heartless? I know it is unfair to ask you to either think or tell the truth Billy, but at age 78, I believe it's about time that you started doing so.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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CB, you don't seem to read very well. I give Nixon credit for his environmental legislation. Yes, he didn't get out fast enough. The two previous administrations were handicapped by the domino theory. They were wrong. Kissinger had the sense to see through that, but he let Nixon delay a peace plan until he was reelected. Countless people died for that. Giving money to people who haven't earned it is the battle cry of conservatism. It translates into," I've got mine; if you don't, that's just TS. Never mind the injunction about my brother's keeper. The current economy is good to some people. Whether or not they deserve it is open to question. Those whom it abandons aren't automatically to blame. I dont read very well, you say? Im obtuse, you say? And yet you ask where you give Johnson and Kennedy a pass on the Vietnam Nam war? Right here in this post you made in the middle of our conversation yesterday. It wasnt their fault, you are saying. They were handicapped by the Domino Theory. I cant guess what you think Bill. I can only go on the words you type. And right there, you absolved Kennedy and Johnson because they were stuck with some theory that they had to follow, while at the same time blaming Nixon for not shucking that same theory fast enough. Thats where you gave them a pass. Very big of you to give Nixon credit for his environmental legislation. Too bad your partisanship blinds you to his other successes. You have unwittingly exposed the shallowness of your thinking and the extreme bias that guides you. In case anyone was in doubt, we now know conclusively how much credibility we need assign your claims and positions here. Edit to add: when I look back over our conversation from yesterday, there are so many falsehoods or errors put forth by Bill, so many direct questions Ive posed unanswered. In truth an inability to respond directly to each claim or counter claim. It took me three posts in another thread to get Bill to admit that the Mueller report exonerated Trump of collusion with the Russians. Three times asking for a direct answer to a direct question. I started that line of questions because Bill did a drive by slander of Trump on the question of Russian collusion. Bill represents the Left. Not interested in discussion nor results. Simply attaining and keeping power in order to tell others how to live. What small minded people.
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It's true Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act, but their arms were being severely twisted by President Johnson. The Republican Party since Reagan's day has not been in the forefront of any equality movement. Sad that that movement is cloaked in the cause of "equality", when in truth most of the Dems could care less about equality. What they want is power, and control over the populace, and to keep that they have to stay in office, and to stay in office they "buy" votes. They have bought them by deceiving the minorities into believing they care about them. How? "Welfare" checks. The countryside is riddled with baby factories who are not married, don't even have a man living in the house, have never held a job, but draw more and more money for every baby they produce. And, they have raised a generation that is just like them. The Dems did that to them, it is not the result of an inequitable system. You're a joke, bill. The only thing unclear to me is your motives. SRH
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CB, When I used the word handicapped, I did not intend it as an excuse. I meant their judgment was at fault. I blame them for their error just as I blame every politician of both parties who backed the invasion of Iraq. Stan, that line about buying votes won't hold much water. What do you think Trump's tax cut was. Politicians do stuff for their constituents, occasionally it's true service; often it's not. That's the system.To see it as partisan is silly. As for welfare, check out government support for sugar producers. When the system lets Amazon and General Electric escape income taxes, you have real welfare fraud.
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....Stan, that line about buying votes won't hold much water. What do you think Trump's tax cut was. Politicians do stuff for their constituents, occasionally it's true service; often it's not. That's the system.To see it as partisan is silly. As for welfare, check out government support for sugar producers. When the system lets Amazon and General Electric escape income taxes, you have real welfare fraud. All one big happy, disfunctional family, huh Bill? Could you pull the part of tax cut that says it's only for old, white Republicans? Can you pull up the part that says dems don't get to participate with the tax cut? Constituents, eh. Your entitlements do tend to favor blue states and blue counties in states that you folks are trying to flip. There you go again, aren't the ceo's of those big corps lock step dems? What a luxury huh Bill. You get to bash them out of one side of your mouth because it'll make three or folks feel good, and on the other hand you get to reap the benefit of their mega dollar corporate donations to get your social justice fundamental change agents elected. Are you sure the campaign coffers, of these folks telling you what to do, are filled twenty or fifty dollars at a time by folks like you? Stan, I bet when Bill got up this morning and had some breakfast, he figured if stove ain't broken don't fix it. It's clear, he doesn't like America and is motivated to change it.
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We have gone, in the space of 1/2 of a presidential term, from record numbers of people unemployed, record numbers of people dependent on welfare and general assistance checks from the government, to the lowest numbers for unemployment for black, Hispanic, female, and Asian minority groups ever recorded. While all that was promised by the previous administration, it delivered nothing. The numbers of people who were suddenly insured were almost all people who were simply shuffled into Medicaid. The democrats gave big pharma and big insurance the pen to write the healthcare legislation, and to write the profit margins as well. As per usual, it is pie in the sky liberal nonsense, that could not have worked.
At the end of the day, the thing that matters the most to me, and that I have the least control over is the economy, and Democrats have left it in a shambles enough times in my life that I hope they are bludgeoned in any and all elections henceforth.
Bill is worried that some corporation gets a tax break, unable to comprehend the value employment numbers by an outfit like Amazon or General Electric contribute to the US economy, when they are here, and not pulling up stakes to do their business elsewhere, a policy almost encouraged under the Obama administration.
Bill will never grasp political give and take, only liberal take. Trying to show that is a waste of time.
Anyone who cant clearly fathom the positive change for the US under the Trump administration, versus the Obama administration, on almost every level, from energy independence to household wealth, is a simpleton. They arent worth the effort it takes to educate them.
Just for you Bill, remember, that Mississippi became the 15th state to endorse a constitution of states. It is coming, Bill, and it will cause all liberals to become terminal bed wetters when the states check the federal government power and force them into term limits, a balanced budget, and a fraction of the power they have, now.
Get used to it, Bill. It is going to happen.
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We have gone, in the space of 1/2 of a presidential term, from record numbers of people unemployed, record numbers of people dependent on welfare and general assistance checks from the government, to the lowest numbers for unemployment for black, Hispanic, female, and Asian minority groups ever recorded. While all that was promised by the previous administration, it delivered nothing. The numbers of people who were suddenly insured were almost all people who were simply shuffled into Medicaid. The democrats gave big pharma and big insurance the pen to write the healthcare legislation, and to write the profit margins as well. As per usual, it is pie in the sky liberal nonsense, that could not have worked.
At the end of the day, the thing that matters the most to me, and that I have the least control over is the economy, and Democrats have left it in a shambles enough times in my life that I hope they are bludgeoned in any and all elections henceforth.
Bill is worried that some corporation gets a tax break, unable to comprehend the value employment numbers by an outfit like Amazon or General Electric contribute to the US economy, when they are here, and not pulling up stakes to do their business elsewhere, a policy almost encouraged under the Obama administration.
Bill will never grasp political give and take, only liberal take. Trying to show that is a waste of time.
Anyone who cant clearly fathom the positive change for the US under the Trump administration, versus the Obama administration, on almost every level, from energy independence to household wealth, is a simpleton. They arent worth the effort it takes to educate them.
Just for you Bill, remember, that Mississippi became the 15th state to endorse a constitution of states. It is coming, Bill, and it will cause all liberals to become terminal bed wetters when the states check the federal government power and force them into term limits, a balanced budget, and a fraction of the power they have, now.
Get used to it, Bill. It is going to happen.
Best,
Ted Well stated, Ted. That State Constitutional Convention cannot get here fast enough, afaic. JR
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It's true Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act, but their arms were being severely twisted by President Johnson. The Republican Party since Reagan's day has not been in the forefront of any equality movement. Sad that that movement is cloaked in the cause of "equality", when in truth most of the Dems could care less about equality. What they want is power, and control over the populace, and to keep that they have to stay in office, and to stay in office they "buy" votes. They have bought them by deceiving the minorities into believing they care about them. How? "Welfare" checks. The countryside is riddled with baby factories who are not married, don't even have a man living in the house, have never held a job, but draw more and more money for every baby they produce. And, they have raised a generation that is just like them. The Dems did that to them, it is not the result of an inequitable system. You're a joke, bill. The only thing unclear to me is your motives. SRH Thank you, Stan. Truth spoken here. The ruination of the nuclear black family and all the resulting rot and crime to society is squarely on The Democrat Party. Started with Roosevelt's New Deal, but was weaponized by Lyndon Johnson's War On Poverty, then carried to a new level by BHO. America will be fortunate to survive the fallout from it. JR
Be strong, be of good courage.
God bless America, long live the Republic.
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Ted, Obama didn't cause the financial meltdown.When he saves the economy from the gamblers on Wall Street and turns it in the right direction, he gets no credit from his detractors. As soon as Trump takes over, he magically pulls prosperity from a hat. This conversation is amusing, but it doesn't seem likely to go anywhere.
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....Obama didn't cause the financial meltdown.When he saves the economy from the gamblers on Wall Street and turns it in the right direction, he gets no credit from his detractors. As soon as Trump takes over, he magically pulls prosperity from a hat.... The fellow barry selected to save your economy had the nickname, turbotax. That should tell you something. Anyone with fifty bucks and an internet connection could have done the job, if they stayed out of the way. Your current President has not used smoke and mirrors. For one small but significant example, can you honestly explain what it means to have tens of thousands of pages of new regulations, potentially affecting the ability to do your job, randomly dumped on you by barry on many a Sunday evening? Or, is 'regulations' just one of the meaningless rally words that lefties look for? Aren't you the smart one, building yet another conversation to nowhere. Can I let you know now and then that it won't be an easy road?
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