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The serial number has nothing to do with the GCA of 1968. These are late 20's guns like Researcher stated. The protruding breech balls are a clue to its provenance. By the way, the gun I am working on is a very well fitted, and smooth working gun, the best I have ever handled in the Stevens-Savage lineup. I'm hoping the owner will sell it to me.

You guys confuse me. So what is the OP's gun?

I got out my old reprinted Stevens catalogs and still don't have a conclusive answer. By the way, the catalogs show some really nice old Stevens guns. Where are they now?...Geo

Geo. , were you referring to guns like the Stevens 385 ?

["Geo., were you referring to guns like the Stevens 385?"]

Why yes, among others single shots as well. That 385 is a beauty!..Geo

Geo, the OPs gun is a Springfield No. 311 or "trade branded" version thereof.

Understand when I spoke of striker fired vs hammer fired I was speaking of internal hammers, not external ones.

My first double was a J Stevens Arms & Tool Co gun, I "Think" a model 335.
It would have been designed, & likely built, prior to either of the G S Lewis patents. It had internal hammers, a plain wedge cross lock, not the rotary bolt of the higher [priced models. Frame bar was rectangular, not contouring. I called it my "Poor Boy" 21, because it had about the same lines & for that price range gun a decent piece of Walnut. Wish I had kept it.
I mostly shot off the shelf 3-1 1/8 loads from it, but if I felt them needed I did not hesitate to fire the 3 3/4-1� loads & even put a box of the New 1� oz Baby Magnums through it. I was a lot younger & more foolish back then & it did have Steel Barrels. When I sent it down the road it was still as "Tight as Dick's Hatband".

The No. 335, which was the J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. Demi-Bloc (chopper lump) barreled follow on to their No. 325 which had mono-bloc barrels, continued to be offered by J. Stevens Arms Co. into 1931. From the 1929 catalogue No. 57



On the January 2nd, 1931, J. Stevens retail price list, the No. 335 listed at $27.50 while the G.S. Lewis action No. 330 which came with twin ivory sights and a Jostam Anti-Flinch recoil pad was $26.75. The Springfield G.S. Lewis action No. 315 was $19.50 and the No. 311 was $18.50.

Researcher;
That sure looks like the gun I had. I sort of wanted to think I had a 325, but there were no seams in the barrel which would have shown it to be a mono-block. At that point, I simply did not know enough about them to check if it was chopper lumped or not.

When did the name change take place from J Stevens Arms & Tool Company to the J Stevens Arms Co? I remember distinctly mine had the "& Tool" in the name.

I did a bit of digging around on the internet & everything I found was in agreement that a 335 marked J Stevens Arms & Tool Co would have been made between 1910 1915. The later ones were marked as J Stevens Arms Co.

These guns did have serial numbers. They had a quite efficient barrel check, coil mainsprings which operated via pushrods in the bar of the frame. They had cocking cams which protruded from the knuckle joint into the forend iron.

In my personal opinion, this line of guns was of a higher quality than the latter Savage/Stevens line, including the Fox B.

The Mar. 19, 1907, patent date shown on Daryl's gun is for Patent No. 847,650 granted to E.H. Elder, assignor to J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. Some of the text on the catalogue page for the No. 335 is quite similar to Winchester text for the Model 21.