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I think someone offered the opinion that the Miroku 500 was a better gun than the BSS. For however little it might matter, I agree...Geo

[quote=2-piper]The three main action designs for break open double guns are; sidelock, boxlock & trigger plate. A boxlock does not have to be of Anson Deely design to qualify as such. There were even muzzle-loaders well before Anson & Deely which were called BoxLocks because the firing mechanism was placed "In the Box" (Frame) rather than on a side plate. [/quote

That�s exactly why I said �Usually� in my post Miller. Hard to argue that when we refer to a BL, it�s USUALLY in reference to an A&D because there were many more of that type action & system built than any other mousetrap design that could also be referred to as a boxlock. The MF Ideal is a trigger plate (in a sense) striker fired lever cocked action. It�s literally the furthest thing from a BL.

I like Lefevers too btw.

regarding bss guns going off face...

all boxlock guns will go off face, if heavily used and not lubed at the hinge pin...

bss guns are favorite of competitive cowboy action shooters, who prefer heavy loads...

plus, the few competitive sporting clays shooters i know of who shoot sxs guns, all prefer browning bss guns...

If, by �Best�, when you are talking boxlocks, you mean most reliable, I guess I�d start with a basic A&N, sans either ejectors, or a single trigger. As George Hoenig
says, �If they aren�t there, they can�t cause you problems�. Make sure it is double under bolted, then add a third fastener. Disc set strikers are a must. Specify 3� proof. Either 12 or 20 gauge to make things easy.
There are Italian, English, and Spanish guns that were produced in this configuration. Any would likely hold up well in the field, and require little in the way of skilled maintenance. Sear angle and access to locks seems to be more of a sidelock issue.
Someone on this website who claims he owns and uses American guns because he is poor, isn�t being honest. Actual poor guys who want a double should start looking at guns off the continent, not American guns. Double guns from Belgium, France, and Germany are often far better buys.



Best,
Ted

and as for the best bang for the buck...cannot beat the stevens 311...

The best boxlock action is the Perazzi action used first on the DC1 SxS in the mid-60s, and still being used on the DC12 today. The unique action is based on the MX8 OU action but with a hook under each barrel, with locking bars that engage the action at the standing breech. Keep it clean and lubed and it will last forever. The twin barrel hooks make so much sense. Recoil comes straight back minimizing off center torque. I don�t know why no one thought of it before Mr Perazzi.

tradition....

BSS guns are shot by sporting clays shooters often because they're easy to shoot well, and because they are easily replaceable, not because they don't go off face, ................. even when "lubed at the hinge pin". Their "greatness", if indeed there is any, is because they are so easy to shoot well.

SRH

It is probably much easier to build a durable gun that wears well and long at 8 lbs, then it is to get the same results at 6 lbs.

Best,
Ted

Record shotguns prove that some one did: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=198630

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