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I've seen articles in the past describing how to make a modern plastic cartridge into a pinfire. For the life of me I can't google one up now. I just read an article in Dig's online magazine about it but it leaves a lot of info out that I think would be needed for a 1st timer. Anyone know of an article or post on how to convert? Thanks.
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Not sure for what you are looking, but I stumbled on something similar a few days back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUYrH0RlcEECheers, Raimey rse
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trying to find an old post or article on how to convert modern shotgun cartridges to pinfire. I've seen a few years ago but now that I need them I can't find them of course.
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Mike, The late Geoffrey Boothroyd describes a method to convert plastic center fire shells to pinfire on pages,181-183 in his book, "The Shotgun."
Last edited by Roy Hebbes; 07/06/19 10:20 AM.
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As Roy says it is described in that book. It was an invention by my old friend (now sadly deceased) Derek Fearn. I have a small number of these inserts. A small brass cylinder that inserts into the old primer pocket after a little drilling out. It then requires a hole to be drilled in from the side for a pin after first either swaging the cartridge head down or removing the brass head. In the article he shows this using a compression formed Winchester case which was Derek's preferred method. A friend has made some inserts for me on his principle which is very much the same but used the head swaging method. Then, quite by chance last Sunday, at an outdoor sale, I picked up 26 brass 12 bore purpose made turned cases which will allow unlimited reloads. I only have a 12 bore pin-fire so that is perfect. Lagopus…..
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Mike I've loaded for numerous pinfire rifles and shotguns Your biggest issue will be the case rims There's a guy in Europe who offers some simple and elegant 16b brass pinfire cases Just buy them and shoot your gun I make all my own stuff I'm a machinist though so it's not a big deal for me You should just flex the PayPal account and get the ready made solution for the problem http://www.hlebooks.com/pinfire/cal16-01.htmAlso, Henry might have something for you too. https://www.henrykrank.com/reloading/cases-primers/shotgun-pinfire-cases.html
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at $33 for 1 case HLE are way to expensive. Henry doesn't offer 16 bore pinfire cases unfortunately. Lagopus I read that article last night. To me however it lacks clarity on how to do some steps. The largest obstacle seems to be where to get the inserts. I know no one with a lathe. I can hire them done but I'll have to come up with a clear photo/design and measurements.
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Mike, the case rims will be something to deal with. Look closely there.
At some time there were shotgun cases with solid plastic case heads. I've heard of guys using them with the rims turned/ground/trimmed off. Haven't seen these cases around anywhere though.
A lathe might not be necessary, you might get away with getting crafty with a drill or something like that and some sandpaper or a file.
Still - at the end of the day, that thirty bucks might seem like a bargain once you have to deal with all the other hurdles. Buy once, cry once but you get to shoot your gun. Also, if you are considering having someone make adapters for the 209 primer pocket - they will cost money too.
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I do have the book described above. Just have to get home to look it up. That might be where I saw the "how to" before. I'd like at least 6 cases. I'm going to use it grouse hunting I am not going to pay $180 bucks. I'll figure something out. Thanks for the help everyone.
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