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bsteele and Dave E.Thank you for your thoughtful, considerate and complimentary posts.
 
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Thank you bOoby for your thoughtful and considerate response. |  |  |  
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Not really wanting to get involved in this personal "Discussion"However re "Perch Belly". Notice the lines of the Stock ARGO44 posted & the lines of the 21 stock. The lower line of the stock on the Spanish gun is a continuation of the grip area just behind the trigger guard, ahead of the half pistol grip.
 
 On the 21 the lower line of the stock drops lower & is about in line with the bottom of the rear trigger. That is the Perch belly, Perch you know do not have a straight line belly.
 
 Beauty, as they say, is in the eye of the beholder, but personally, I like the bottom line of a shotgun stock to be in line from the back of the trigger guard to the toe of the butt plate, just far more ascetically pleasing in my eyes. Regardless of whether it is a straight grip, half or full pistol grip.
 
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Same here but to each his own.
 Some of the Browning Superposed for the English market carried the perch belly stock.
 
 Very thoughtful, considerate and informative  response Mr.Miller.
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2-piper,  Thank you for your thoughtful, considerate and informative post. When I thought of Perch Belly, I thought of  and  Here is another image of my stock,  and from another I own.  Certainly not nearly as exaggerated as the first two examples but I think I see what you're talking about. In the next day or so, I'll put a straight edge to the two of them . |  |  |  
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Bob, what is that first gun in your last post? 
 
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Wonder what the thought process was behind the "perch belly stock" ? |  |  |  
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The single most elegant American rifle is, without question, the 1885 Winchester, and it too has a perch belly.  Though fairly slight, a Winchester does not look right without it.  The Winchester also "perches" out from left to right with the fattest point being about 1/4 to 1/3 of the distance from the buttplate to the wrist.  Perhaps the shotguns have some heritage from their rifle siblings. 
 
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Am no expert on stocks but in the 2nd photo in Mr. Cash's latest post (#550827) both the Perch Belly and curved comb appear to follow the wood grain rather nicely; Perhaps better than had the same blank been used for a straight stock.
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Bob, what is that first gun in your last post?  Good morning BrentD Thank you for your thoughtful and considerate responses. To answer your question, I searched the internet for Perch Belly gunstocks  and lifted the extreme Perch Belly images from there. Unfortunately, I have no idea what type of gun it is. |  |  |  
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