I remember when Town and Countries were on the road. Even when I was six, I couldn't figure out who was buying them. I am even more in the dark now that I'm 61. My woodie is less a mystery because the original purchaser, The Lovely Linda's uncle, was certified. Lucky for me, he garaged it and drove other vehicles. The 460 is low mileage (with a bad valve guide, unfortunately). That doesn't make it a bad vehicle nor does anyones opinion about a gun they've never owned make it a bad gun. I like Pete's last comment. It was a surprise. At least Pete has owned them all. Murphy