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What is avg value of a 20 ga S grade with ejectors in 80% original condition with tight lock up and clean barrels

Ball park in fine.

Many thanks

80% metal and wood, realistic sell price $600-$800.

single trigger or double triggers? Know that you are looking at a older (1908-1924 thaca with shorter than 2&3/4" chambers. What is barrel length and what are the choke number stampings on the barrel flats- If they are 4&4- you have full choked barrels-

Years ago I owned a similar Flues- 20 28" choked 2&4-- Mod and Full- but traded it for a Fox Sterly 20 with ejectors-- Good guns, but make in the older Black Powder era-- RWTF

Union Metallic Cartridge Co. had been offering factory loaded smokeless powder shotgun shells for 18 years when the Flues Model Ithaca was introduced and Winchester had been offering them for 15 years. While it certainly can't be proven, I'd bet that 90% of the Flues Model Ithaca shotguns have never seen a black powder shotgun shell. They were all made before non-corrosive primers though.

Flues 20's can be attractive to some hunters because some of them are very light. However, the very light 20's in particular can have issues with frames that crack. If the chambers have been lengthened to 2 3/4" and you shoot whatever the big box stores have on special thinking they're light loads . . . well, while they're probably only 7/8 oz, the pressure may not be that low nor the velocity that slow. (After all, guys with autos they never clean expect those shells to work fine in their guns.)

The other issue with the Flues models is finding one with decent stock dimensions. Most of them are both on the short side and have too much drop for a lot of shooters used to modern stock dimensions.

26" uncut barrels choked 0 on right and 4 on left with original 2 1/2" Chambers and fluid steel barrels.

Thanks

Double triggers

Travis: if it's a No. 1 Special it was listed as having Cockerill Steel; good stuff. Neat gun.

Researcher had a nice Flues tutorial on Shotgun World, but the catalog page images were lost to the PhotoBucket fiasco

It is an S grade. I think I will keep it based on all I read here.

Thanks all.

Courtesy of Researcher
Up into early 1915, the No. 1 1/2 had the frame with the roll-stamped dog with company name and a bit of zig-zag border engraving with Damascus barrels, while the Field Grade, No. 1 and the No. 1 Special just had the roll-stamped dog with company name. Field Grade had Smokeless Powder Steel and a half-pistol grip stock. The No. 1 had Twist steel barrels and the No. 1 Special had Cockerill Steel barrels. In mid-1915, Ithaca Gun Co. introduced the bold floral engraving on the No. 1 1/2 and added the option of Krupp Fluid Steel barrels.

The entry-level Flues Model Ithaca doubles, the Field Grade, the No. 1, the No. 1 Special and the No. 1 1/2 were in a constant state of flux from 1915 through 1919 as Ithaca ran out of composite iron and steel barrel tubes and of course through that time frame Krupp barrels fell out of favor in the U.S. In a couple of catalogs the No. 1 had the zig-zag border engraving that prior to mid-1915 had been on the No. 1 1/2, and they all got steel barrels as the European sources of Twist and Damascus barrels dried up due to the Great War. By late 1919 catalogs Ithaca Gun Co. had simplified the line. The Field Grade got a capped pistol grip stock, the No. 1 Special and the No. 1 1/2 were gone and the "New" No. 1 had the floral engraving of the 1915 to 1918 No. 1 1/2, with "Fluid Steel" barrels. How much these changes in the catalogs led or lagged what the workers on the factory floor were building is anyone's guess. That is how the No. 1 remained well into the NID period until the No. 1 and 3 were both dropped circa 1935.