clapper, it is been my observation that competitive shooters dont do well in the grouse woods, where shots are more instinctive... and unpredictable...and it works vice versa...low gun skeet seems to be the best practice for grouse shooting...

but alas, as grouse shooting in thick cover seems to be a sport of the past these days, i was hoping there were clays courses set up in areas where grouse used to be...where us old bird hunters could go and try to simulate the glory of times gone by...

the northeastern states own thousands of acres of wonderful grouse covets, aka state game lands...problem is, grouse are on the edge of extinction...it would be nice if the states converted some of those covets to clay shooting facilities, staffed by game wardens who have nothing much to do these days, except patrol for deer and turkey poachers...and harass fishermen....

Last edited by ed good; 08/16/19 09:02 PM.

keep it simple and keep it safe...