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Sidelock
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I hope I'm wrong but I'm not so sure the mental health argument is going to win the day when there is a palatable fear across the nation of being killed in a mass shooting.
That fear is going to become controlling sooner or later and something is going to get done, & whatever that is going to be, its going to be the easiest thing to achieve. And what do think that is going to be? Identifying individuals with MH issues and then going through the due process of removing their firearms or just legislating a ban?
You might not like hearing it from me but the left is picking up on the right's tactics of fear mongering and fear will get it done. My instinct is that the wave is going to be to large to be blocked by a wall. Its just going to flow over it, so the gun lobby's best chance is to get ahead of it and work out a reasonable solution. You are trying a softer approach, but what exactly is your point here? There is absolutely no substance to your comment. You are calling for gun control based on your feelings and the feelings of like minded people. Where are your facts to prove beyond any 'reasonable' doubt, that putting restrictions on only law abiding US citizens will in any way alleviate your fears? You mention 'due process' vs. 'legislation'? Huh? Are you saying that one option is the legislative branch doing their job, and the other option is 'due process' by the fear mongering of the left because they're better at fear mongering than the right? If you believe that citizens are destined to be controlled by fear, then the only relief in sight would the third branch of govenment, the judiciary, that renders decisions that it imposes on law abiding citizens based on facts and not the reason that dems install judges, fear activism. Last, but certainly not least, when did you or any of your emotional lefty buddies settle for a reasonable solution? Shouldn't we recognize your position today as an increment and subject to 'evolving'? You miss a lot when you pontificate from the abstract craig. I'm not supportive of this red flag BS and nor am I receptive to an assault weapons ban. I am pretty good at predicting human nature though, and although you and your buddies don't want help from me, I'm warning you that the irrational fear of getting shot that is taking grip is going to cause bad laws such, as the above, to be passed. The gun lobby should get ahead of the issue. Being entrenched isn't helpful in a tsunami.
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Sidelock
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No doubt you'd be one of the first to be red flagged for being insane and in possession of a firearm.
Just an observation 'Comrade.
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Sidelock
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But brain-dead Libtards like nca225 are just too stupid to connect the dots, so they keep on supporting Liberal left Democrat anti-gunners.
I notice that nobody has even suggested calling your Congressmen and Senators to tell them that we will not support legislators who infringe upon our 2nd Amendment.
Keith did you notice how their nasty insanity has calmed.... Quite obvious because of their fear of being red flagged.
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....I'm not supportive of this red flag BS and nor am I receptive to an assault weapons ban. I am pretty good at predicting human nature though, and although you and your buddies don't want help from me, I'm warning you that the irrational fear of getting shot that is taking grip is going to cause bad laws.... I never once said having help was a bad thing or not appreciated. Another way of looking at hypocrisy might be, how long do you hang around with buddies that lie to you? Eighteen hundred people have been shot in chicago so far this year, yet you have never been willing to 'discuss' your motivation for sweeping the fear talking point under the rug if it doesn't fit your agenda. It's always been about how you lobby to vote, not how you blog. Are you predicting human nature or do you wait until talking points gain traction before you become an authority. If you're concerned about 'bad' laws, I believe you're implying that they will come from lawmakers. Specifically, are you defining gun rights unity as voting dem?
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... we can only hope and pray it won't be... Hope and prayer couldn't hurt. But God helps those who help themselves. A good place to start is letting your legislators know that you won't tolerate further infringements upon the 2nd Amendment Rights of law abiding citizens. Then, renewing your membership in the NRA is important because the NRA continues to be the most potent lobby in Washington, and they are the cheapest gun insurance policy you can possibly buy. Most important is for gun owners to finally recognize the enemy within. When King speaks of a "Fraternity" of gun owners, he wants us to continue to embrace those who are stabbing us in the back by supporting the anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats. The same Democrats who work relentlessly to nibble away at our gun rights. Then we have King and his little transgender pal nca225 frequently suggesting that our NRA should give in to the anti-gunners to placate their never-ending quest to exploit fear and tragedy in order to take away our gun rights. The most despicable enemy you can have is the enemy who pretends to be your friend.
Voting for anti-gun Democrats is dumber than giving treats to a dog that shits on a Persian Rug
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Seems to me that in this situation my enemy isn't the guy telling me a shit hurricane is coming and to prepare for it. It would be the guy who gets the warning and then doesn't take any precautions to ameliorate its effects.
If we get an assault weapons ban or a national red flag law, its that guy's fault.
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Sidelock
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Seems to me that in this situation my enemy isn't the guy telling me a shit hurricane is coming and to prepare for it. It would be the guy who gets the warning and then doesn't take any precautions to ameliorate its effects.
If we get an assault weapons ban or a national red flag law, its that guy's fault. Hmmm, yet another non answer. So, your solution is to turn to the fellow with no answers for hurricane relief. Well nca, you say the gun lobby needs to work in on reasonable solutions to help you overcome your fears. Lets try this again, list the specific gun lobby organization that you contribute to thatre looking out for your interests?
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Sidelock
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The fastest way to lose rights is to divide gun owners into enemies and loyalists by the way they vote.
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Sidelock
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The fastest way to lose rights is to divide gun owners into enemies and loyalists by the way they vote. The fastest way to divide is to not be forthcoming with the folks you claim to want to unite. Isnt truthful acknowledgement of voting record relevant? Then again, was it necessary to mention since nca refused to explain, and I moved on to trying to figure what he means by gun lobby? Wouldnt that be relevant, seeing how he might be talking about the anti lobby? Whats your solution, besides repealing the Canadian registry? Maybe, through a special kinship, you could explain some particulars of what nca is meaning instead of beating around the bush?
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Sidelock
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In today's times here in the USA the way one votes, liberal or conservative is the division among gun owners and enemies. I'm not a true believer republican, but they are the only choice because the other party has made gun control a primary plank of their state and national platform. If gun owners vote democrat it is they who divide themselves from me...Geo
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