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Just that the two polls of public opinion I mentioned related little to reality. I'd expect Pew's percentage of Muslim hatred to be higher, considering the West's doctrine to invade preemptively and arbitrarily any country it believes inimical to the West's national interests. (And it does, often disastrously to itself and millions of others.) From posts here concerning the Second, I daresay 10 per cent of our forum's US members would take up arms against their own government to protect their gun rights. Are we angels and they devils?
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....I'd expect Pew's percentage of Muslim hatred to be higher, considering the West's doctrine to invade preemptively and arbitrarily.... Maybe, you seek polls that meet your expectations, eh? Have you ever considered why there aren't polls of the percentage of western white hatred by, well you know who? I appreciate how you arbitrarily, yet preemptively push an agenda. You're foolishly wrong about how ten percent of the participants here are itching to take up arms against some government boggie man. I'm of the opinion that red, white and blue Americans abide by the US Constitution and US law, and just value what is under attack, not what pew feels. Your side that wants to take, hypocritically does not value the rule of law, since law breaking is the sole tool for advancing fundamental change, eh? And you're one of the kumbaya, I work with all sides kind of guy, but you characeterize jihadis as angels and Americans as devils? Who's drawing lines and picking sides? Now heck, if you value being a devil purely because of your ethnicity, well knock yourself out, but I'll pass.
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Think on this: The Taliban in Afghanistan will not allow girls to go to school. Yet in very conservative Muslim countries--Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran--girls are allowed to go to school... Can they go to church, say a Hail Mary or Our Father...go to a soccer game? #bluegirl I generally find the truth to be somewhere in or close to the middle. __________________________ Aboot another month, eh, King. Go Wings! I lived in Rabat, Morocco for 2 years. Big Catholic cathedral right in the middle of the city. Anyone could go to a soccer game. No burqas (nor even the veil) mandated for women. The only religious restriction I was aware of: No missionaries allowed.
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According to Pew Research, based on world wide polls, roughly 10% of Muslims fully and enthusiastically support the terrorist actions against The West.
10% !!!
That's around 180 million people.
It's not some fringe.
The same polls suggest that up to an additional 45% tacitly approve of the anti west sentiment espoused by the vocal 10%.
That's another 800 million people.
Tell me again about this fringe group of Muslims????
What a crock! Talk is cheap. Checking a box on a poll is even cheaper. If we were dealing with 800 million Muslims INVOLVED IN OR ACTIVELY SUPPORTING TERRORISM, it wouldn't look anything like the world we actually live in. The terrorists would be in charge of the Muslim world . . . which they clearly are not. When Bin Laden declared war on the United States back in 1998, he stated in his fatwa that it was the duty of every Muslim, wherever they were, to kill Americans--however they could. Well, how's that worked out? After all, if you want to kill Americans, then the best place to be--the most target-rich environment--is obviously the USA. So . . . out of the several million Muslims living in the USA, how many of them either do that or attempt to do it? Hell, we have wacko all-American mass shooters who kill more people in a single event than are killed by Islamist terrorists in this country in an average YEAR. Looks pretty darned "fringy" to me. But then I was trained to look at what's actually happening, not at what polls show. And remember this about polls: If they were all that accurate, Hillary Clinton would be president.
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Get a copy of the Koran & study it. You'll find out who is following Mohammad's teaching. IF I did not agree with the basics of what by Religion was based on, I Would Get Out of it. If I did not believe that I should force all Jews & Christians to convert to Islam or Kill them (Which I don't) I would not be a Muslim (Which I am Not).
It's a crying shame that in our public school system we cannot quote the Bible or Say a Prayer in the name of Jesus, but our Children & Grandchildren are Taught Islam in the classrooms. Miller, you clearly do not understand Islam. Nor, apparently, the history of the Christian church. When the Jews were fleeing the Inquisition in Spain--when the Christian church gave them the choice of conversion or death--a lot of them ended up in the Muslim world. Where they were neither forced to convert, nor were they killed. Until relatively recently, there were fairly large Jewish communities in places like Morocco. They were required to pay a special tax and live in their own areas. Other than that, they were basically left alone. That only changed with the Zionist movement, the establishment of the modern state of Israel . . . and, in particular, the wars between Israel and neighboring Arab countries. The result of which was the relocation of most of those Jews--whose families had lived in peace in Muslim nations for centuries--to Israel or elsewhere.
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Says our great hOly Muslim protector....
PS...When I see you brag about living with Muslims and then bragging about how your daughter was raised by Muslims I feel like going and throwing up.
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How about editing your post King dOng....
I'm guessing the GIANT blank space in your post is caused from a moment of Joe Biden senility.
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Think on this: The Taliban in Afghanistan will not allow girls to go to school. Yet in very conservative Muslim countries--Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran--girls are allowed to go to school... Can they go to church, say a Hail Mary or Our Father...go to a soccer game? #bluegirl I generally find the truth to be somewhere in or close to the middle. __________________________ Aboot another month, eh, King. Go Wings! I lived in Rabat, Morocco for 2 years. Big Catholic cathedral right in the middle of the city. Anyone could go to a soccer game. No burqas (nor even the veil) mandated for women. The only religious restriction I was aware of: No missionaries allowed. I wasnt aware that you mentioned Morocco in your previous post. https://www.africanews.com/2019/03/22/morocco-s-hidden-christians-to-push-for-religious-freedom/Maybe things have changed since you lived there? __________________________ Took a MacKinnon slap shot to the head, King? Whats up with all that space?
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Tried to fix it, Joe. Sorry. I marked it senility.
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It was late; didn't notice space when I sent it. All day chainsaw and replacing eight-foot posts in vineyard. Maybe my birthday party.
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